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Old March 20th 08, 12:23 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Old March 20th 08, 12:47 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Personally I think all sailplanes (gliders) are graceful even the old 1965
homebuilt design which I fly.

Wayne
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Old March 20th 08, 01:37 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Personally I think all sailplanes (gliders) are graceful even the old 1965
homebuilt design which I fly.



It's hard to find an ugly sailplane but they do exist.






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Old March 20th 08, 02:01 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Personally I think all sailplanes (gliders) are graceful even the old
1965
homebuilt design which I fly.



It's hard to find an ugly sailplane but they do exist.


I'll have to agree... that thing doesn't win a beauty contest.

However, most sailplanes are beautiful even when they are tied down for the
night.

Back to the subject "Graceful Airplanes", technically in the USA a glider
isn't an airplane.

Wayne
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Old March 20th 08, 09:57 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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"Mitchell Holman" wrote in message
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"Wayne Paul" wrote in
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Personally I think all sailplanes (gliders) are graceful even the old
1965
homebuilt design which I fly.



It's hard to find an ugly sailplane but they do exist.


I'll have to agree... that thing doesn't win a beauty contest.

However, most sailplanes are beautiful even when they are tied down for
the night.

Back to the subject "Graceful Airplanes", technically in the USA a
glider isn't an airplane.



At least until that little door opens up and a
little motor pops out............










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Old March 21st 08, 12:19 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Back to the subject "Graceful Airplanes", technically in the USA a
glider isn't an airplane.



At least until that little door opens up and a
little motor pops out............


It still isn't an airplane. It is a "self-launched" glider. The
airworthiness certificate states "glider" and you need a "glider" rating
with a "self-launch" endorsement in you log book to legally fly it.

Wayne


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Old March 21st 08, 01:23 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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"Agh!" wrote in message ...
Wayne Paul wrote:

"Mitchell Holman" wrote...


technically in the USA a glider isn't an airplane.


At least until that little door opens up and a
little motor pops out............


It still isn't an airplane. It is a "self-launched" glider.


It is, of course, an aeroplane.


According to the current Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (14 CFR) part 1, Definitions and Abbreviations, an aircraft is a device that is used, or intended to be used, for flight. Categories of aircraft for certification of airmen include airplane, rotorcraft, lighter-than-air, powered-lift, and glider. Part 1 also defines airplane as an engine-driven, fixed-wing aircraft heavier than air that is supported in flight by the dynamic reaction of air against its wings.

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) defines a glider as a heavier-than-air aircraft that is supported in flight by the dynamic reaction of the air against its lifting surfaces, and whose free flight does not depend on an engine. The term glider is used to designate the rating that can be placed on a pilot certificate once a person successfully completes required glider knowledge and practical tests. There are three primary launch methods. Ground launch (winch, auto-tow, etc), aero-tow and self-launch.

The pictured aircraft is one of the DG series self-launch gliders. On the airworthiness certificate the type is listed as glider.

You can not legally fly it with a "single-engine" airplane rating. As previously stated, you must have at least a private glider rating with a "self-launch" log book entry.

Respectfully,

Wayne

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Old March 21st 08, 08:47 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Uzytkownik "Wayne Paul" napisal w wiadomosci ...

The pictured aircraft is one of the DG series self-launch gliders. On the airworthiness certificate the type is listed as glider.


It's SZD-56-2 Diana2 ;-)
www.beres.com.pl

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Old March 21st 08, 09:32 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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No elevators ?

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Old March 21st 08, 10:46 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 0:33:57 +0000, Agh! wrote
(in message ):

technically in the USA a glider isn't an airplane.


At least until that little door opens up and a
little motor pops out............


It still isn't an airplane. It is a "self-launched" glider.


It is, of course, an aeroplane.


Or, more pedantically, it's an 'Aeroplane (Self-launching Motor
Glider)', at least in the UK.

The (UK's) Air Navigation Order 2005 contains a table entitled
Classification of Aircraft, a copy of which I attach for general
interest (if there is any).

Though not shown on the table, microlights and powered parachutes
are classed as 'Aeroplane (Landplane)' and hang gliders are classed
as 'Glider'.

This picture actually comes the CAA's CAP 393 as the Order's table
(on-line version) appears to have been screwed up a little.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP393.pdf

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