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I know it has been in the past... just wondering about this year.
Larry Goddard --Zero One-- |
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No, of course note. It may be Utah but we had so much beer there we
couldn't drink it all! |
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On Jun 30, 5:02�pm, Tuno wrote:
No, of course note. It may be Utah but we had so much beer there we couldn't drink it all! Well, I did have my pee tube regurgitate day old urine all over me in the start gate because of that stupid 18 knot thermal I hit...I was not dry, but the wings of my ship, and all others were. -EX |
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Just a question!
Why was Parowan dry? This is a Regional with pretensions to "National" input. Why no water as is flown at this level in most other parts of the world. Again, just curious. Bob |
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Bob --
The field elevation is 5932 feet, and launches on 04 more often than not have a slight tail wind. Launching 50-something gliders in those conditions is a lot easier when the gliders are dry. As is pushing the glider a mile down to 22 if the launch direction has to be changed. 2NO |
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On Jun 30, 11:35*pm, "
wrote: Why was Parowan dry? This is a Regional with pretensions to "National" input. Why no water as is flown at this level in most other parts of the world. Some of the available tow planes can barely give a dry standard class glider a safe takeoff climb rate. I didn't like the idea of it being a dry contest until the first time I flew there. It only took a few tows to recognize it was a good call. Andy |
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The possibility of permitting water for FAI class ships in future
contests at Parowan was discussed informally by a few of us there last week. It is my opinion that limited ballast (perhaps to 9 lbs/sq ft) would be feasible given that some ships launched (such as motorgliders and some two-seaters) already were at that wing loading. Only one of the six tow planes would have been problematic, in my opinion. The bigger problem is that of administering weight limits at a contest given the requirement for weighing at a facility with very limited space to maneuver (this is the first contest I've been at where a fight broke out over tie-down space!). It just might be too difficult to manage a ballasted contest there. Also. if you look at the speeds achieved, this was a fantastic contest even without ballast. However, next year I'm going to adopt the suggestion of one of the ridge runners to use their technique of stuffing a pillow above my head to avoid bashing it on the canopy so often in the ten+ knot thermals. Mike |
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Why was Parowan dry? This is a Regional with pretensions to "National"
input. Why no water as is flown at this level in most other parts of the world. Fair Question, I’ll attempt to fill in the blanks. Although the Parowan area is now touted as perhaps the premiere racing site in the US (I agree) the Airport has some glitches that currently add complications to operating a contest when compared to more spacious U.S. Airports like Hobbs, NM for example. Here are a few reasons it’s currently best suited for a dry contest and no open class ships: (1) The Airport is as noted by others is located at 5932 feet MSL, density altitude can reach 10,000 on hot days. (2) It only has one 4/22 runway no cross runway options (3) The airport runway is 5,000 feet x 75 feet Asphalt, with adjacent RW lights and a parallel 50 foot wide x 3,500 usable (+-) asphalt taxi way also with lights. (4) RW 04 slopes down and RW 22 up at a 1.3% grade. (5) The rope brake landing options are reasonably good on RW 04 but extremely poor on RW 22 and a low rope break off of 22 will likely result in some kind of damage… (6) Downhill, down wind take offs on 04 are the norm, as are dropped tips on roll out, this keep things pretty darned exciting right off the bat. (7) When we do take off on 22 (15+kt winds) it’s a relief not to have to do a 10-15kt downwind take off but given the uphill slope and the lack of immediate field landing options it’s not a warm fuzzy for the first minute or so. (8) All gliders must use a rolling grid / start to have enough runway to safely launch, this means that 1/3 of the fleet will have to grid off the runway and all pilots are tediously pushing the ships forward every five launches. (9) Contest landing is a bit tricky, especially when 10 ships hit the finish circle at once. We generally land up hill on 22, that’s a good thing but must carry enough energy to roll to the very end of the runway where many helpers quickly push you off the runway while still in the cockpit before the next pilot hot on your tail lands. If a pilot mis-judges and lands short on the RW all hell breaks loose and options quickly diminished for the pilots stacking up in the pattern. If one carries too much energy, has poor breaks (who doesn’t) and overruns the end, you will have runway lights to damage your wings as happened to 3 or four last year. We had a few overruns this year too but I didnt hear of any damage. Parowan is an amazing place to fly and race but has it’s complications that will bite the unprepared pilot. I heard some talk last year of matching funding becoming available to extend the Airport but when and how this will occur is an unknown and likely way down the road. Given these AP limitations one should be very well prepared prior to arriving at Parowan. I’ll be attending every contest held at Parowan as IMHO it is simple the best. Rick - 21 |
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