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Old August 22nd 08, 01:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tuno
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Default Visiting France and Italy -- any two-seaters need ballast?

I'm going to be wandering around southern France the last two days of
September, and in northern Italy the first three days of October
(Milan / St Vincent). In the off chance that there might be an
opportunity to spend an hour or two in the back seat of a high
performance ship along the way, I would gladly pay the winch, tow and
any rental cost.

~ted/2NO
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Old August 22nd 08, 06:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Visiting France and Italy -- any two-seaters need ballast?

Tuno

I am in sourthern Germany, near Munich. I would be glad to take you in
a flight in our Nimbus 3dt. We use a winch for launching so it would
cost you a few beers. Let me know if you are interested.

Bob

wannathermal1 (at) aim dot com
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Old August 22nd 08, 07:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Peter Nyffeler[_2_]
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Default Visiting France and Italy -- any two-seaters need ballast?

Tuno wrote:

I'm going to be wandering around southern France the last two days of
September, and in northern Italy the first three days of October
(Milan / St Vincent). In the off chance that there might be an
opportunity to spend an hour or two in the back seat of a high
performance ship along the way,


Ask the people of "Aeroclub Volovelistico Lariano" at Alzatte-Brianza
north of Mialno close to Como. I like the place and people.

http://www.avl.it/


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Old August 22nd 08, 08:45 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Smith
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Default Visiting France and Italy -- any two-seaters need ballast?

http://www.ffvv.org/ouvoler.php

A click into the map will yield a list of glider operators.
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Old August 22nd 08, 03:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tuno
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Default Visiting France and Italy -- any two-seaters need ballast?

I LOVE THIS GROUP!!! (Yes I do mean to shout.)

How much glider activity is there at Gap-Tallard these days?

Bob, I will send you an e-mail this weekend. I see that the currency
of Germany has not changed since I last visited. Which side of Munich
are you on?

I am hoping to fly with a private operator, as opposed to visiting a
commercial gliderport, but any vacation flying opportunity will be
gladly considered.

2NO
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Old August 22nd 08, 07:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_4_]
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:47:57 -0700, Tuno wrote:

I am hoping to fly with a private operator, as opposed to visiting a
commercial gliderport, but any vacation flying opportunity will be
gladly considered.

AFAICT German gliding is mostly club based, like the UK. Anyway, if you
take your medical certificate, license and log book you should be able to
just rock up and fly provided the field you visit has spare capacity that
day.

Back in 2003 I did just that at the gliding school on the Wasserkuppe.
The office OKed my papers in about 5 mins flat and sent me out to the
flight line for a check flight, after which I got to fly an ASK-23 (the
first one I'd seen). The whole atmosphere was like a UK gliding club and
the procedure was almost exactly the same.


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Old August 22nd 08, 08:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Visiting France and Italy -- any two-seaters need ballast?



Tuno a écrit:
I'm going to be wandering around southern France the last two days of
September, and in northern Italy the first three days of October
(Milan / St Vincent). In the off chance that there might be an
opportunity to spend an hour or two in the back seat of a high
performance ship along the way, I would gladly pay the winch, tow and
any rental cost.

~ted/2NO


Try the club in Vinon sur Verdon, some 100km NNW of Marseille on A51.
If you come there before the daily briefing (10 am) you certainly can
arrange a two seater flight on the Alps - according to weather naturally.

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Old August 22nd 08, 11:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mike Schumann
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Default Visiting France and Italy -- any two-seaters need ballast?

Do you have to have a medical to fly in Europe?

Mike Schumann

"Martin Gregorie" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:47:57 -0700, Tuno wrote:

I am hoping to fly with a private operator, as opposed to visiting a
commercial gliderport, but any vacation flying opportunity will be
gladly considered.

AFAICT German gliding is mostly club based, like the UK. Anyway, if you
take your medical certificate, license and log book you should be able to
just rock up and fly provided the field you visit has spare capacity that
day.

Back in 2003 I did just that at the gliding school on the Wasserkuppe.
The office OKed my papers in about 5 mins flat and sent me out to the
flight line for a check flight, after which I got to fly an ASK-23 (the
first one I'd seen). The whole atmosphere was like a UK gliding club and
the procedure was almost exactly the same.


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gregorie. | Essex, UK
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Old August 22nd 08, 11:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Edward Lockhart[_3_]
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Default Visiting France and Italy -- any two-seaters need ballast?

Only if you want to fly solo.

At 22:04 22 August 2008, Mike Schumann wrote:
Do you have to have a medical to fly in Europe?

Mike Schumann

"Martin Gregorie" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:47:57 -0700, Tuno wrote:

I am hoping to fly with a private operator, as opposed to visiting a
commercial gliderport, but any vacation flying opportunity will be
gladly considered.

AFAICT German gliding is mostly club based, like the UK. Anyway, if

you
take your medical certificate, license and log book you should be able

to
just rock up and fly provided the field you visit has spare capacity

that
day.

Back in 2003 I did just that at the gliding school on the Wasserkuppe.
The office OKed my papers in about 5 mins flat and sent me out to the
flight line for a check flight, after which I got to fly an ASK-23

(the
first one I'd seen). The whole atmosphere was like a UK gliding club

and
the procedure was almost exactly the same.


--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |



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Old August 22nd 08, 11:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Martin Gregorie[_4_]
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Default Visiting France and Italy -- any two-seaters need ballast?

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:04:15 -0500, Mike Schumann wrote:

Do you have to have a medical to fly in Europe?

It varies from country to country.

In the UK its pretty light: when I learnt in 2000 it was self-
certification unless you wanted to instruct or carry pax, which was
exactly the same as the requirements for a commercial driving license.

Since then its tightened up a little. Now for most glider pilots its self
certification countersigned by your GP. The list of excluding conditions
are the same as those that would prevent you from driving a private
vehicle. If you want to instruct or carry passengers its the same as the
medical clearance you'd need for a commercial driving license.

I don't know exact details for other countries, but generally a UK
medical works elsewhere except for France, which is more stringent. If I
missed something I'm sure somebody will correct me.


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