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Greetings,
I've been looking for a canopy breaking tool, that would work on a 1/4" thick canopy. I know the military has had a few of these over the years, but I haven't been able to locate a used, or surplus tool. I'm betting that someone makes a tool for this, but I sure can't find one in any internet search. For the record, I've seen the life hammers, and such that are made for tempered auto glass, but I don't think those would work. If anyone can point me to a tool that's made for aircraft canopies, I'd certainly appreciate it. Cheers, Rusty |
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Actually it is no big deal.. The one mounted in the old AH-1 Cobra that I
flew was nothing but a short bladed K-Bar kniife and our curved canopy was about 1/4" thick. It was installed for when the det cord didn't blow out the canopy or the copter was laying over on the canopy (which is usually the way things ended up in bad times).n I'm sure the ones found in the auto magazines would do as well as the high dollar K-Bar. Just a thought. RTL "Russell Duffy" wrote in message ... Greetings, I've been looking for a canopy breaking tool, that would work on a 1/4" thick canopy. I know the military has had a few of these over the years, but I haven't been able to locate a used, or surplus tool. I'm betting that someone makes a tool for this, but I sure can't find one in any internet search. For the record, I've seen the life hammers, and such that are made for tempered auto glass, but I don't think those would work. If anyone can point me to a tool that's made for aircraft canopies, I'd certainly appreciate it. Cheers, Rusty |
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I've been looking for a canopy breaking tool, that would work on a 1/
4" thick canopy. I know the military has had a few of these over the years, but I haven't been able to locate a used, or surplus tool. I'm betting that someone makes a tool for this, but I sure can't find one in any internet search. cheap shotI believe we have an RV-4 builder present who can advise on one method of how to break a canopy..../cheap shot ---------------------------------------------------- Del Rawlins- Remove _kills_spammers_ to reply via email. Unofficial Bearhawk FAQ website: http://www.rawlinsbrothers.org/bhfaq/ |
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Robert,
I was going to mention the det cord in the Cobra. I could see the Darwin Award now. "Homebuilt airplane blown in two while pilot attempts to use the privately installed detonation cord to eject canopy glass." Where and when do you fly the snake? I was an aeroscout pilot. Fred "Robert Little" wrote in message ... Actually it is no big deal.. The one mounted in the old AH-1 Cobra that I flew was nothing but a short bladed K-Bar kniife and our curved canopy was about 1/4" thick. It was installed for when the det cord didn't blow out the canopy or the copter was laying over on the canopy (which is usually the way things ended up in bad times).n I'm sure the ones found in the auto magazines would do as well as the high dollar K-Bar. Just a thought. RTL "Russell Duffy" wrote in message ... Greetings, I've been looking for a canopy breaking tool, that would work on a 1/4" thick canopy. I know the military has had a few of these over the years, but I haven't been able to locate a used, or surplus tool. I'm betting that someone makes a tool for this, but I sure can't find one in any internet search. For the record, I've seen the life hammers, and such that are made for tempered auto glass, but I don't think those would work. If anyone can point me to a tool that's made for aircraft canopies, I'd certainly appreciate it. Cheers, Rusty |
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Hi,
A full 1/4" thick! Cool. This brings up a question that some one in the group might be able to answer. The question arises from some experiments I conducted while trying to design an extraction tool for a true Lexan canopy. A few years ago I did the initial test flights and then flew off the "first 40" hours on a friend's homebuilt for him. He spent the extra bucks for a thick, true Lexan canopy with the gold UV barrier. The Lexan was chosen over the less expensive Acrylics because we fly in an area where the probability of bird strikes is higher and Lexan won't break easily. Because of the geometry of the cowl-canopy-vertical stabilizer line, I was concerned that it would be very difficult to open the canopy and get out of the thing if it ever flipped over on its back. I bought some 1' x 1" Lexan squares of the same thickness as the canopy and fabricated a rigid frame that I could use as a test jig. I then tried a number of different extraction "tools" to see which edge design would work the best to break the Lexan. That stuff is tough! The blunt instruments would not break it, but a very sharp axe edge could be used to eventually "chew" through at a spot so that a thin pry-bar could be inserted. This worked, but the initial creation of the hole for the pry-bar took so long that a person could be a "crispy critter" before the process was complete. I needed something with more energy concentrated. Without going into the whole train of development, I ended up with a device mounted on a 2' long by 1" diameter tube of 4130 steel. The "business end" of the device used two of the 32 caliber "nail driver" blank shells to very rapidly extend, from the end of the device, a captive sharp spike of case hardened steel coated with carbide granules. The rear, full diameter, section of the spike and "barrel" were machined like a course "jack screw" so that the spike rotated as it extended. When the safety was removed and the "trigger" was pulled with the end of the device held against the Lexan, the spike would penetrate the Lexan. To me, the interesting part was that a "smooth spike" coming out without rotation didn't work all of the time because of recoil. The course, rotating spike actually friction melted its way through the Lexan and then stuck in place. Once the spike had penetrated through the Lexan, the 2' "level" portion of the could be used to pry on the sheet to crack the sheet. I can think of a modification that would also drive an impact head that would shatter Acrylic canopys without the need for the spike. It would also be possible to have a "T" device that provided multiple impact points along a line. Here is the question. I used the 32 cal blank shells because that was the most direct way to get the gas pressure I needed in the chamber. I made one version that used a modified 410 shot gun shell - but it required more bulk than the 32 cal shell firing mechinism. And, I considered using the internal volume of the "pry tube" as a pressure chamber for high pressure Nitrogen, but the complexity of the filling fittings and the explosive decompression valve was too much work. Also, it would mean flying with a pipe bomb in the cockpit. I happened to be describing the device to a friend over a $100 cup of coffee one day and a fellow in the next booth overheard the conversation. He volunteered that the device violated FARs because it could be considered as carrying an "explosive device" in a civil aircraft. At the time, I didn't want to "open Pandora's box" by contacting the FAA about the issue. However, with the proliferation of low-wing homebuilt aircraft designs that use bubble canopies, I wonder if it is a good time to pursue further development as a safety device. I didn't apply for patents because this sort of safety device should be in the public domain. What think all? J "Russell Duffy" wrote in message ... Greetings, I've been looking for a canopy breaking tool, that would work on a 1/4" thick canopy. I know the military has had a few of these over the years, but I haven't been able to locate a used, or surplus tool. I'm betting that someone makes a tool for this, but I sure can't find one in any internet search. For the record, I've seen the life hammers, and such that are made for tempered auto glass, but I don't think those would work. If anyone can point me to a tool that's made for aircraft canopies, I'd certainly appreciate it. Cheers, Rusty |
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Del Rawlins wrote in message ...
I've been looking for a canopy breaking tool, that would work on a 1/ 4" thick canopy. I know the military has had a few of these over the years, but I haven't been able to locate a used, or surplus tool. I'm betting that someone makes a tool for this, but I sure can't find one in any internet search. cheap shotI believe we have an RV-4 builder present who can advise on one method of how to break a canopy..../cheap shot ooooh...you're mean (translation: you posted it before I could) Sydney |
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OOOOOoooooohhhhh.
Dave 'crack kills' Hyde I've heard the joke about carrying a drill with a standard bit, since we all know that canopies will crack if you get a drill near them :-) Fortunately, my RV-8 canopy never cracked in two years I flew it, and the current RV-3 canopy hasn't, and probably won't crack, because it was supplied by Todd's Canopies. Thanks to all who commented. Ron, the sight you point me to is down at the moment, but I'll keep trying. Dan, I've sent an email about the surplus military tools you mentioned. As for using det cord, pistols, or any sort of explosive device, I would worry about starting a fire. I imagine being on my back in the RV-3, with fuel dribbling around the canopy area on the ground. Just doesn't seem like a good idea to use explosives. Thanks again, Rusty (building 3 planes for every one that Dave finishes g) |
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Save yourself some money, WalMart sells a camping axe -- with the
protective leather ~$7. That's what I keep in my plane. Although my axe was my son's when he was in the scouts. |
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