When Airline Pilots WON'T speak ENGLISH!!!

The FO does most of the communications; they don't trust my perfect
English. In South Fl if you speak good English you can't communicate
properly. I have had a lot of fun with my language in Miami. Most people
(latins) assume I don't speak or understand Spanish, and it is quite funny
when they talk about me (in Spanish) in front of me without knowing I
understand.

All joking aside, communications is one of my pet peeve's in the cockpit.
With so many inexperienced and foreign FO's, they have terrible and poor
communication skills. There is one African FO, that answers "OK!" to all ATC
instructions. Never reads back anything, and most of the time doesn't even
know what they told him. I like the guy, but he has no place flying until he
can understand English. He is the only guy I ever lost my cool with. When I
fly with him, and it is my leg, I do all the flying and all the
communicating.
I fly pretty good, so far I haven't broken an airplane, so I guess that
accounts for something. Considering some of the FO's I fly with lately, that
makes an above average Pilot (in my opinion). I haven't flown a light single
in years, so my brother doesn't let me land his airplane, as most jet
pilots, I have a tendency to start my flare way too high when flying a light
single.

"hello" wrote:
The FO does most of the communications; they don't trust my perfect
English. In South Fl if you speak good English you can't communicate
properly. I have had a lot of fun with my language in Miami. Most people
(latins) assume I don't speak or understand Spanish, and it is quite funny
when they talk about me (in Spanish) in front of me without knowing I
understand.

All joking aside, communications is one of my pet peeve's in the cockpit.
With so many inexperienced and foreign FO's, they have terrible and poor
communication skills. There is one African FO, that answers "OK!" to all ATC
instructions. Never reads back anything, and most of the time doesn't even
know what they told him. I like the guy, but he has no place flying until he
can understand English. He is the only guy I ever lost my cool with. When I
fly with him, and it is my leg, I do all the flying and all the
communicating.
I fly pretty good, so far I haven't broken an airplane, so I guess that
accounts for something. Considering some of the FO's I fly with lately, that
makes an above average Pilot (in my opinion). I haven't flown a light single
in years, so my brother doesn't let me land his airplane, as most jet
pilots, I have a tendency to start my flare way too high when flying a light
single.

Thank you. We thought it was only here in AZ, where a lot of aspiring
airline pilots come to put in time since there are so many good-weather
flying days here. Nothing worse than being in the pattern at an
uncontrolled airport and hearing, "FDVHUdscr Trafffick, Cessna ^%#s9,
&&VSs, Gobbledegoop 1 mile, VFSDGXCxss, FDVHUdscr Traffick."

Huh? 1 mile WHERE? How do these people pass the oral exam? Do they
understand US? Do they care?

"hello" wrote in
:

The FO does most of the communications; they don't trust my perfect
English. In South Fl if you speak good English you can't communicate
properly. I have had a lot of fun with my language in Miami. Most
people (latins) assume I don't speak or understand Spanish, and it is
quite funny when they talk about me (in Spanish) in front of me
without knowing I understand.

All joking aside, communications is one of my pet peeve's in the
cockpit. With so many inexperienced and foreign FO's, they have
terrible and poor communication skills. There is one African FO, that
answers "OK!" to all ATC instructions. Never reads back anything, and
most of the time doesn't even know what they told him. I like the guy,
but he has no place flying until he can understand English. He is the
only guy I ever lost my cool with. When I fly with him, and it is my
leg, I do all the flying and all the communicating.
I fly pretty good, so far I haven't broken an airplane, so I guess
that
accounts for something. Considering some of the FO's I fly with
lately, that makes an above average Pilot (in my opinion). I haven't
flown a light single in years, so my brother doesn't let me land his
airplane, as most jet pilots, I have a tendency to start my flare way
too high when flying a light single.




If you're flying a multi-crew jet single pilot and allowing your company to
get away with forcing you to do it, you're an idiot.


Bertie

Shirl wrote in
:

"hello" wrote:
The FO does most of the communications; they don't trust my perfect
English. In South Fl if you speak good English you can't communicate
properly. I have had a lot of fun with my language in Miami. Most
people (latins) assume I don't speak or understand Spanish, and it is
quite funny when they talk about me (in Spanish) in front of me
without knowing I understand.

All joking aside, communications is one of my pet peeve's in the
cockpit. With so many inexperienced and foreign FO's, they have
terrible and poor communication skills. There is one African FO, that
answers "OK!" to all ATC instructions. Never reads back anything, and
most of the time doesn't even know what they told him. I like the
guy, but he has no place flying until he can understand English. He
is the only guy I ever lost my cool with. When I fly with him, and it
is my leg, I do all the flying and all the communicating.
I fly pretty good, so far I haven't broken an airplane, so I guess
that
accounts for something. Considering some of the FO's I fly with
lately, that makes an above average Pilot (in my opinion). I haven't
flown a light single in years, so my brother doesn't let me land his
airplane, as most jet pilots, I have a tendency to start my flare way
too high when flying a light single.

Thank you. We thought it was only here in AZ, where a lot of aspiring
airline pilots come to put in time since there are so many
good-weather flying days here. Nothing worse than being in the pattern
at an uncontrolled airport and hearing, "FDVHUdscr Trafffick, Cessna
^%#s9, &&VSs, Gobbledegoop 1 mile, VFSDGXCxss, FDVHUdscr Traffick."

Huh? 1 mile WHERE? How do these people pass the oral exam? Do they
understand US? Do they care?


You ought to hear some US pilots abroad.....



Bertie

Huh? 1 mile WHERE? How do these people pass the oral exam?


A lot of them must be women???


But as I tell all my FO's (whether they speak English of not, IN ENGLISH),
"If you make us go around, you won't fly another leg for the rest of the
day." I only say this when they're at 30DME from the field and still at
18000 Ft.

"hello" wrote

But as I tell all my FO's (whether they speak English of not, IN ENGLISH),
"If you make us go around, you won't fly another leg for the rest of the
day." I only say this when they're at 30DME from the field and still at
18000 Ft.

Well, THAT's real helpful for ensuring safety.

If I'm riding, let everyone know before we take off, so I can get off.

If going around is needed, I would prefer to go around, without fear of
punishment for the FO.

But since you are posting without a real identity, you probably only fly
Microsoft flight simulators, so it really does not matter what you are
posting.
--
Jim in NC

"hello" wrote in
:


Huh? 1 mile WHERE? How do these people pass the oral exam?


A lot of them must be women???


But as I tell all my FO's (whether they speak English of not, IN
ENGLISH), "If you make us go around, you won't fly another leg for the
rest of the day." I only say this when they're at 30DME from the
field and still at 18000 Ft.




And my opinion drops once again.


Bertie

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"hello" wrote

But as I tell all my FO's (whether they speak English of not, IN
ENGLISH), "If you make us go around, you won't fly another leg for the
rest of the day." I only say this when they're at 30DME from the field
and still at 18000 Ft.

Well, THAT's real helpful for ensuring safety.

If I'm riding, let everyone know before we take off, so I can get off.

If going around is needed, I would prefer to go around, without fear of
punishment for the FO.

But since you are posting without a real identity, you probably only fly
Microsoft flight simulators, so it really does not matter what you are
posting.

So if he were to make up a "real" sounding name, perhaps something like Jim
in NC, that would automatically make him a bonafide pilot?


--
Jim in NC

But since you are posting without a real identity, you probably only fly
Microsoft flight simulators, so it really does not matter what you are
posting.
--
Jim in NC


It's comments like this that make airline captains not even want to share
some insight.


I won't be back, u wannabe clowns! No go play with your Wi.

Shirl wrote in
Thank you. We thought it was only here in AZ, where a lot of aspiring
airline pilots come to put in time since there are so many
good-weather flying days here. Nothing worse than being in the pattern
at an uncontrolled airport and hearing, "FDVHUdscr Trafffick, Cessna
^%#s9, &&VSs, Gobbledegoop 1 mile, VFSDGXCxss, FDVHUdscr Traffick."

Huh? 1 mile WHERE? How do these people pass the oral exam? Do they
understand US? Do they care?

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
You ought to hear some US pilots abroad.....

I'm sure that's true, and US pilots abroad should be able to communicate
clearly in languages spoken there, too. But I don't think many US pilots
travel abroad specifically to learn to fly or to build hours. I just
figure if they're here specifically for that, speaking FLUENT, clear and
*understandable* ENGLISH would be a pre-requisite ... but apparently not!