Moller's back...

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/p...he_skycar.html

"Ron Webb" wrote in message
ions...

Did he ever go away?

Vaughn

Ron Webb schreef:
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/p...he_skycar.html

Ah, finally some serious discussion stuff instead of these guys crying
loud about casting stuff
they can't even spell correctly - where's their credibility?
Give me Mr. Moller a 1000 times over, he's been in business for several
decades now!





(pun intended, for those who couldn't notice for themselves...)

On Jan 11, 6:13*am, "vaughn"
wrote:
"Ron Webb" wrote in message

ions...

Did he ever go away?

Vaughn

He's probably working on his "bail me out" request.

Harry K

On Jan 11, 1:36*am, "Ron Webb" wrote:
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/p...he_skycar.html

Seeing as how we can't keep the average driver from stacking his car
up, how does he think the average driver will do dealing with 3
dimensions?

Seeing the carnage on the roads now, if his sky car were workable and
affordable the result would be a rapid decrease in population.

Harry K

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:55:49 +0000, jan olieslagers
wrote:

Give me Mr. Moller a 1000 times over, he's been in business for several
decades now!

So was Bernard Madoff...
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If the government doesn't trust us with our guns, why should we trust them with theirs?

On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:13:59 GMT, "vaughn"
wrote:

Did he ever go away?

He never will, either.

But he's got competition, now....

http://samsonmotorworks.com/

Good for a few chuckles on a slow day. The FAQ's are especially
amusing...
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If the government doesn't trust us with our guns, why should we trust them with theirs?

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Harry K wrote:

On Jan 11, 1:36*am, "Ron Webb" wrote:
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/p...he_skycar.html

Seeing as how we can't keep the average driver from stacking his car
up, how does he think the average driver will do dealing with 3
dimensions?

Seeing the carnage on the roads now, if his sky car were workable and
affordable the result would be a rapid decrease in population.

Harry K

If it were workable and affordable, it would already have flown in an
extensive flight test program -- aftaer all, he has had more than 30
years to get it to work.

As an engineer, I can list a number of "page one" flaws in both the
design and concept:

1. Controllability. He wants to synchronize four to eight engines to
provide both lift and thrust, where failure of either one engine or the
control interlink would cause loss of control.

There is no provision for power-off glide or control, so a BRS-type
parachute is mandatory.

2. Aerodynamics. Just one look at the Volantor convinces me that the
design is a drag machine, with interference and parasite drag sources
everywhere.

3. Fuel consumption. The engines are supposed to be Wankel-type
rotaries, which have a very high fuel consumption, although their
power/weight ratio is good.

4. According to Moller himself, he is not a pilot, nor has he undertakn
flying lessons. It shows.

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On Jan 11, 11:44*am, Dana M. Hague wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:13:59 GMT, "vaughn"

wrote:
Did he ever go away?

He never will, either.

But he's got competition, now....

http://samsonmotorworks.com/

Good for a few chuckles on a slow day. *The FAQ's are especially
amusing...
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If the government doesn't trust us with our guns, why should we trust them with theirs?

Samson's machine looks closer to reality than Moller's. For one
thing, the wheels look like they could handle operating in the
earthbound mode.

Although Moller's FlyingCar is/was/has_always_been a farce, his
SuperTrap mufflers was a successful design and his contribution to the
improvement to the Wangle engine are notable.

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"vaughn" wrote:

"Ron Webb" wrote in message
ions...

Did he ever go away?

Vaughn

Only when the lights were switched on.