(OT) 4th Geneva Convention

Just to eliminate some of the superfluous chit-chat on the subject from people
who obviously haven't looked at it, here is a copy of the 4th Geneva Convention,
enacted in August 1949, to which both the U. S. and Iraq subscribed:

"Art. 3. In the case of armed conflict not of an international character
occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to
the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following
provisions:

(1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed
forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by
sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be
treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour,
religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and
in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation,
cruel treatment and torture;
(b) taking of hostages;
(c) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading
treatment;
(d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous
judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial
guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples."

On Tue, 11 May 2004 09:15:17 -0400, "George Z. Bush"
wrote:

Just to eliminate some of the superfluous chit-chat on the subject from people
who obviously haven't looked at it, here is a copy of the 4th Geneva Convention,
enacted in August 1949, to which both the U. S. and Iraq subscribed:

"Art. 3. In the case of armed conflict not of an international character
occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to
the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following
provisions:

(1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed
forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by
sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be
treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour,
religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and
in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation,
cruel treatment and torture;
(b) taking of hostages;
(c) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading
treatment;
(d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous
judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial
guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples."


you left out one important part, not to publish pictures of the
captured. But since Iraq has not signed on to the Geneva accords what
difference does it make, Personally I'm sick in tired of the
anti-American media here in the states and wonder why they didn't
raise hell when our soldiers are mistreated by others.

"Perry" wrote in message
...

you left out one important part, not to publish pictures of the
captured. But since Iraq has not signed on to the Geneva accords what
difference does it make,


In his opening paragraph the OP stated; "here is a copy of the 4th Geneva
Convention, enacted in August 1949, to which both the U. S. and Iraq
subscribed:" So is Iraq a signatory nation or not?

"Perry" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 May 2004 09:15:17 -0400, "George Z. Bush"
wrote:

Just to eliminate some of the superfluous chit-chat on the subject from
people
who obviously haven't looked at it, here is a copy of the 4th Geneva
Convention,
enacted in August 1949, to which both the U. S. and Iraq subscribed:

"Art. 3. In the case of armed conflict not of an international character
occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each
Party to
the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following
provisions:

(1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members
of armed
forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by
sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all
circumstances be
treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race,
colour,
religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any
time and
in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds,
mutilation,
cruel treatment and torture;
(b) taking of hostages;
(c) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and
degrading
treatment;
(d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without
previous
judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the
judicial
guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples."


you left out one important part, not to publish pictures of the
captured. But since Iraq has not signed on to the Geneva accords what
difference does it make, Personally I'm sick in tired of the
anti-American media here in the states and wonder why they didn't
raise hell when our soldiers are mistreated by others.

Because the news media is heel-bent on toppling the US, as it has been since
the Korean War.

difference does it make, Personally I'm sick in tired of the
anti-American media here in the states and wonder why they didn't
raise hell when our soldiers are mistreated by others.

We saw some of that on this newsgroup as well . It was only by a few
individuals though.

"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
...
Just to eliminate some of the superfluous chit-chat on the subject from
people
who obviously haven't looked at it, here is a copy of the 4th Geneva
Convention,
enacted in August 1949, to which both the U. S. and Iraq subscribed:

"Art. 3. In the case of armed conflict not of an international character
occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each
Party to
the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following
provisions:

Note the "not of an international character" bit...unless the US annexed
Iraq prior to the start of the war, this article would appear to be of
questionable applicability.

You might want to also include Article 4 in your "lesson".

Brooks


(1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of
armed
forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by
sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all
circumstances be
treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour,
religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time
and
in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds,
mutilation,
cruel treatment and torture;
(b) taking of hostages;
(c) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and
degrading
treatment;
(d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without
previous
judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the
judicial
guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples."

On Tue, 11 May 2004 09:15:17 -0400, "George Z. Bush"
wrote:

Just to eliminate some of the superfluous chit-chat on the subject from people
who obviously haven't looked at it, here is a copy of the 4th Geneva Convention,
enacted in August 1949, to which both the U. S. and Iraq subscribed:

"Art. 3. In the case of armed conflict not of an international character
occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party to
the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following
provisions:

(1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed
forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by
sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be
treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour,
religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and
in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation,
cruel treatment and torture;
(b) taking of hostages;
(c) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading
treatment;
(d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous
judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial
guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples."



Thanks. Saves me a search.




--

It's good to be the King.

Of course this means that ONLY the United States should observe the rules.
It is OK for the Terrorists (who by the way are not signators to the Geneva
Convention) to demand the one-sided protection of that Treaty while
disallowing it to those they murder, take hostage, torture, etc. Under such
circumstances the Geneva Convention is NOT applicable..only the word of God
as given to Christians is. Islam requires the death of all infidels without
mercy, pity, or second thoughts. It is their Satanic Religion given by the
Angel of the Devil...Mohammed..that has so distorted the minds and thinking
of the Arabs. The Convention
requires BOTH parties to observe the terms. Besides, the war in IRAQ is
only being carried to terrorists...not the law abiding Iraqi people who
loath the terrorists as much as we do.

"Lucius Domitius Aurelianus" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 May 2004 09:15:17 -0400, "George Z. Bush"
wrote:

Just to eliminate some of the superfluous chit-chat on the subject from
people
who obviously haven't looked at it, here is a copy of the 4th Geneva
Convention,
enacted in August 1949, to which both the U. S. and Iraq subscribed:

"Art. 3. In the case of armed conflict not of an international character
occurring in the territory of one of the High Contracting Parties, each Party
to
the conflict shall be bound to apply, as a minimum, the following
provisions:

(1) Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of
armed
forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by
sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances
be
treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour,
religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria.

To this end the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time
and
in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:
(a) violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds,
mutilation,
cruel treatment and torture;
(b) taking of hostages;
(c) outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading
treatment;
(d) the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without
previous
judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the
judicial
guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples."



Thanks. Saves me a search.

You're welcome.

George Z.

"John Harris" wrote in message
...
Of course this means that ONLY the United States should observe the rules.
It is OK for the Terrorists (who by the way are not signators to the Geneva
Convention) to demand the one-sided protection of that Treaty while
disallowing it to those they murder, take hostage, torture, etc.

Actually, the Convention itself says that those who do not subscribe to the
Convention are3 not entitled to seek protection under it.

.....Under such circumstances the Geneva Convention is NOT applicable..

Actually, the Convention is applicable to those who subscribed to it. Nowhere
does it say that if one party to the armed conflict or whatever you want to call
it fails to subscribe to the terms of the Convention that the other party is
excused from complying with its terms.

.....only the word of God as given to Christians is. Islam requires the death
of all
infidels without mercy, pity, or second thoughts. It is their Satanic
Religion given by the
Angel of the Devil...Mohammed..that has so distorted the minds and thinking
of the Arabs.

I'd prefer to leave the word of God out of the discussion, since the Convention
applies to all of its signatories, including even those who worship other Gods
or those who worship none.

.....The Convention requires BOTH parties to observe the terms. Besides, the
war in IRAQ is
only being carried to terrorists...not the law abiding Iraqi people who
loath the terrorists as much as we do.