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TFR not right IMO
I was getting ready to go today and noticed that there were two
new TFR's for me to avoid. One of them closed a regional airport, and the other a few miles away to the northwest. I saw the words "Secret Service" and figured #1 or #2 was gonna be in town. I did a news search and found out that the reason for it was because VP Cheney was going to a $1000/plate party fundraiser. All told they mucked up about 60 square miles of airspace, closed a fairly large airport (class C), and caused a mess on a pretty big highway; All in the name of fundraising for the party. I think this is really wrong! If they were on official biz for the government I could understand it, but they're just stumping for re-election and panhandling with rich people, and I don't think they should be doing it on our dime or at the expense of the public's right to travel. I got to thinking that this is only going to get worse as election season heats up, and wondered how many pilots would be losing their tickets because they didn't check their political fundraising notams. Agreements or disagreements out there? Bart |
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I saw the words
"Secret Service" and figured #1 or #2 was gonna be in town. Happens here in NYC all the time. Bush was in town last Monday for a fundraiser and when he comes in everything shuts down. |
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Along the lines of this and a previous thread, I sent this to the White
house yesterday w/copies to my congressional critters. President Bush 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW Washington D.C. July1, 2003 Dear President Bush, Please do not visit or send Vice President Cheney to the Tucson area during your fund raising and campaigning junkets. The onerous flight restrictions now (30 nm radius) imposed by your travels are in excess of 12,000 cubic miles of airspace closed to general aviation. Not only does this deprive law-abiding U.S. citizens of their right to travel but it could push some struggling businesses over the edge. Since 9/11, innuendo, false alarms and pointless flight restrictions have decimated the general aviation industry. This industry employs more people than the airlines but has not received any economic relief. On the contrary, general aviation continues to be selected for additional economic damage through an executive policy of unreasonable restrictions, impositions, and lack of due process. The "DC 3" airports are an excellent example. You have a right to campaign and raise funds but you must be aware that these activities are not within the duties of you office. While conducting these activities you are holding your rights above those of millions of fellow citizens. I hope you will take an opportunity to review your security arrangements soon. Until you can reduce the imposition (return to the 10 nm radius) or realistically justify the current restrictions, please give your fellow citizens a break and stay home. Kevin W. McCue Business owner and pilot -- Kevin McCue KRYN '47 Luscombe 8E Rans S-17 (for sale) -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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Kevin, you are tha man!
Nice Job, Bart Kevin McCue wrote: Along the lines of this and a previous thread, I sent this to the White house yesterday w/copies to my congressional critters. President Bush 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW Washington D.C. July1, 2003 Dear President Bush, Please do not visit or send Vice President Cheney to the Tucson area during your fund raising and campaigning junkets. The onerous flight restrictions now (30 nm radius) imposed by your travels are in excess of 12,000 cubic miles of airspace closed to general aviation. Not only does this deprive law-abiding U.S. citizens of their right to travel but it could push some struggling businesses over the edge. Since 9/11, innuendo, false alarms and pointless flight restrictions have decimated the general aviation industry. This industry employs more people than the airlines but has not received any economic relief. On the contrary, general aviation continues to be selected for additional economic damage through an executive policy of unreasonable restrictions, impositions, and lack of due process. The "DC 3" airports are an excellent example. You have a right to campaign and raise funds but you must be aware that these activities are not within the duties of you office. While conducting these activities you are holding your rights above those of millions of fellow citizens. I hope you will take an opportunity to review your security arrangements soon. Until you can reduce the imposition (return to the 10 nm radius) or realistically justify the current restrictions, please give your fellow citizens a break and stay home. Kevin W. McCue Business owner and pilot -- Kevin McCue KRYN '47 Luscombe 8E Rans S-17 (for sale) -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2003 08:55:23 -0700, "Kevin McCue" wrote:
Along the lines of this and a previous thread, I sent this to the White house yesterday w/copies to my congressional critters. President Bush 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW Washington D.C. July1, 2003 Dear President Bush, -snip- Kevin W. McCue Business owner and pilot Right on Kevin! TM -- Toadmonkey: "Now now. Brain popping and world crashing may be hazardous to ones perception of reality. Very dangerous business that can lead to madness or something worse for some, truth." Please remove all bits of spam from addy before replying.... -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- |
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TFR not right IMO
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:10:28 -0800, Bart wrote
(in article ): I think this is really wrong! If they were on official biz for the government I could understand it, but they're just stumping for re-election and panhandling with rich people, and I don't think they should be doing it on our dime or at the expense of the public's right to travel. Some of the stupidest reasoning that I have ever heard, which is going some for Usenet. Look, you can argue about whether the security measures are effective or necessary. But to suggest that they should in place only when they are on "official biz" is utterly ridiculous. Terrorists and assassins work 'round the clock. They do not only strike when Presidents and Vice Presidents are on "official biz." No doubt if your favorite politician was assassinated while visiting his Aunt Mathilda in Hoople, North Dakota, you would be outraged if he normally had a security detail but, because he was not on the job, the detail was back in DC. So, you want them to have security, only when they are on official business, and then only if it is not a personal inconvenience to you? Limitations on your right to travel are the tip of the iceberg. Your freedom to speak is also limited. I remember when President Carter visited the Olympic Hotel in Seattle. Several staff members were given a few weeks off, without pay, because they had said things critical of Carter. Every guest had to undergo a background check. Anyone who had ever said anything even remotely threatening had his reservations canceled. People who had lived in the hotel for years were evicted because the President clears out not only the floor he is staying on, but also the floors above and below it. Presidents who go to ball games have entire sections of seating cleared out for security purposes. It does not matter if you have had season tickets for 50 years; you're out. Presidential motorcades close out whole networks of streets and highways, because the exact route of the motorcade is a secret. If you were counting on that route to get to your job on time, or even the hospital, tough luck. It has been that way for more than 40 years. You once wrote a threatening letter and your office overlooks a potential route? You get to stay home for the day, without pay. And maybe your boss will fire you because you did not show up to work. And then there is the cost of all this security, the money for which is taken from you every year at gunpoint. But hey, if all you are worried about is TFRs, no prob, Bro. Just remember you sound a little like a 3 pack a day smoker worrying about getting cancer from the MSG in a Chinese restaurant. |
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