Singapore down selects three fighters...

Singapore has down selected the F15, Rafale and the Eurofighter
typhoon for their next generation fighter....

The F16, F18E/f and Sukhoi Su-30MK were rejected.


"Asked how the final three were chosen, Mindef said it had looked at
several factors like operational performance, the availability of
spares, the cost of operating the aircraft over its lifespan and the
potential for it to be upgraded."

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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:51:43 +1000, John Cook wrote:
Singapore has down selected the F15, Rafale and the Eurofighter
typhoon for their next generation fighter....

The F16, F18E/f and Sukhoi Su-30MK were rejected.

I'm surprised the F-16 was ruled out, sincre Singapore already
operates that plane.

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It is all about putting all your eggs in one basket. Everybody knows
about the Congress idiosyncrasies. Not to mention there may be plans to
do some kind of upgrade from type 52 F16 to near type 60.

IMHO, it is going to be a tossup between Rafale and the Typhoon. F15 is
too complicated and the road map is too short to operate. But Rafale
programme needs more money and the Typhoon roll out rate isn't exactly
fast.

Pity the people that have to make the decision. One thing that is for
sure, it is going to worth the admission tickets to Asian Aeropspace
2004. All down selects are required to do demos. Quite an event since
no one in this side of the ocean has seen a real Typhoon.

phil hunt wrote:

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:51:43 +1000, John Cook wrote:


Singapore has down selected the F15, Rafale and the Eurofighter
typhoon for their next generation fighter....

The F16, F18E/f and Sukhoi Su-30MK were rejected.



I'm surprised the F-16 was ruled out, sincre Singapore already
operates that plane.




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AL wrote:
It is all about putting all your eggs in one basket. Everybody knows
about the Congress idiosyncrasies. Not to mention there may be plans to
do some kind of upgrade from type 52 F16 to near type 60.

IMHO, it is going to be a tossup between Rafale and the Typhoon. F15 is
too complicated and the road map is too short to operate.

I think the F-15 has a very good chance. Bear in mind their next door
neighbours are getting Su-30s.

Cheers
David

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:29:56 +1000, David Bromage wrote:
AL wrote:
It is all about putting all your eggs in one basket. Everybody knows
about the Congress idiosyncrasies. Not to mention there may be plans to
do some kind of upgrade from type 52 F16 to near type 60.

IMHO, it is going to be a tossup between Rafale and the Typhoon. F15 is
too complicated and the road map is too short to operate.

I think the F-15 has a very good chance. Bear in mind their next door
neighbours are getting Su-30s.

If the want a counter to the Su-30, wouldn't something more modern
than the F-15 be approprate?

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phil hunt wrote:
If the want a counter to the Su-30, wouldn't something more modern
than the F-15 be approprate?

How about an F-15K?

Cheers
David

In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 13:29:56 +1000, David Bromage
wrote:
AL wrote:
It is all about putting all your eggs in one basket. Everybody knows
about the Congress idiosyncrasies. Not to mention there may be plans to
do some kind of upgrade from type 52 F16 to near type 60.

IMHO, it is going to be a tossup between Rafale and the Typhoon. F15 is
too complicated and the road map is too short to operate.

I think the F-15 has a very good chance. Bear in mind their next door
neighbours are getting Su-30s.

If the want a counter to the Su-30, wouldn't something more modern
than the F-15 be approprate?

It's all about loiter time and weapons.
An amraam is faster than an Su-30.
And I can assure you that the newest F-15s have extremely modern
avionics and weapons. Unsurpassed.

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

Like in Korea last year,it will may depend on "diplomatic questions",then
F.15 is on the way.
But like in Korea last year also,Rafale will certainly win technical
evaluations.So wait and see.



"David Bromage" a écrit dans le
message de news: ...
AL wrote:
It is all about putting all your eggs in one basket. Everybody knows
about the Congress idiosyncrasies. Not to mention there may be plans
to
do some kind of upgrade from type 52 F16 to near type 60.

IMHO, it is going to be a tossup between Rafale and the Typhoon. F15
is
too complicated and the road map is too short to operate.

I think the F-15 has a very good chance. Bear in mind their next door
neighbours are getting Su-30s.

Cheers
David

Rafale may have a slight advantage.
http://www.sedb.com/edbcorp/sg/en_uk...w__volume.html
REGIONAL FOCUS
Research pact with France
The first day of the Asia Pacific Conference yesterday saw France and
Singapore lift their already close defence relations to a new plane with
the signing of an agreement for joint studies in aerospace and radar
technology. Paris-based defence giant, Thales, will follow suit with a
similar agreement that will be inked today. This will pave the way for
Thales to set up a research lab - its first Asian-based research
facility - in Singapore. Sealing the deal, the first between France and
an Asia-Pacific country, on the sidelines of the defence talks tagged it
with more significance than had it been held at any other time. For
starters, the memorandum of understanding signed between the Defence
Science and Technology Agency (DSTA) and Onera, France's leading
aerospace research agency, capped two years of talks between France and
Singapore on the way defence technology research between the two
countries could be strengthened. Some $2 million will be spent initially
to set up a lab outside Paris. Defence officials said it was a visible
demonstration of Singapore's commitment to broadening its defence
cooperation with partners in Europe, to complement strong ties with America.
Adapted from The Straits Times 31 May 2003

Mike wrote:

Like in Korea last year,it will may depend on "diplomatic questions",then
F.15 is on the way.
But like in Korea last year also,Rafale will certainly win technical
evaluations.So wait and see.



"David Bromage" a écrit dans le
message de news: ...


AL wrote:
It is all about putting all your eggs in one basket. Everybody knows
about the Congress idiosyncrasies. Not to mention there may be plans


to


do some kind of upgrade from type 52 F16 to near type 60.

IMHO, it is going to be a tossup between Rafale and the Typhoon. F15


is


too complicated and the road map is too short to operate.

I think the F-15 has a very good chance. Bear in mind their next door
neighbours are getting Su-30s.

Cheers
David








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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 11:27:11 +0800, AL wrote:
It is all about putting all your eggs in one basket. Everybody knows
about the Congress idiosyncrasies.

"Everyone"? I don't.

Not to mention there may be plans to
do some kind of upgrade from type 52 F16 to near type 60.

IMHO, it is going to be a tossup between Rafale and the Typhoon. F15 is
too complicated and the road map is too short to operate. But Rafale
programme needs more money and the Typhoon roll out rate isn't exactly
fast.

Pity the people that have to make the decision. One thing that is for
sure, it is going to worth the admission tickets to Asian Aeropspace
2004. All down selects are required to do demos. Quite an event since
no one in this side of the ocean has seen a real Typhoon.

So when will the final decision be made?

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people who openly support the RIAA" -- comment on Wikipedia
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