Naviter Oudie Should be Available in April 2010

The new Naviter Oudie PNA device with preinstalled See You Mobile for
PNA scheduled be available in April.

To preorder see

http://www.craggyaero.com/oudie.htm

$650 includes See You Mobile PNA


Richard
www.craggyaero.com

$650 includes See You Mobile PNA

Oudie ?.. Maybe Ouchie would be more appropriate. $650 seems a bit
steep.

What's the price for current See You Mobile users?

What's the price for current See You Mobile users?

When I place my $100 deposit during the Convention, I was told it
would be the
price of the Oudie minus the cost of SeeYou Mobile. The price of
SeeYou Mobile
is $334. So I am expecting to pay $316 for the Oudie.
This was not through Craggy Aero.

I am a current SeeYou Mobile user.

Hi Randy,

I think that either someone made a mis-statement at the convention, or you
misunderstood. I don't have final information on the discount, but I
believe it will be much less than the cost of a Mobile key. I will post
details here as soon as I receive them.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Randy" wrote in message
...
What's the price for current See You Mobile users?

When I place my $100 deposit during the Convention, I was told it
would be the
price of the Oudie minus the cost of SeeYou Mobile. The price of
SeeYou Mobile
is $334. So I am expecting to pay $316 for the Oudie.
This was not through Craggy Aero.

I am a current SeeYou Mobile user.

Hi,

I think the $650 price is very reasonable when you consider that it includes
a built-in GPS and suction cup mount and cradle and a working RS-232 serial
port and a SeeYou Mobile key that is tied to the unit. It is very
comparable in price to the example PDA and PNA systems shown on my
PDA/PNA/GPS Example systems page he
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/pdagps.htm

I don't know yet what the discount will be for current SeeYou Mobile users,
but it will be a modest discount because of extensive work done to upgrade
the software to run on the Oudie and the fact that the key is tied to the
Oudie and can therefore be transferred with the Oudie when you sell it in
the future.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Dixie Sierra" wrote in message
...

$650 includes See You Mobile PNA

Oudie ?.. Maybe Ouchie would be more appropriate. $650 seems a bit
steep.

What's the price for current See You Mobile users?

On Feb 5, 11:08*pm, Richard wrote:
The new Naviter Oudie PNA device with preinstalled See You Mobile for
PNA scheduled be available in April.

To preorder see

http://www.craggyaero.com/oudie.htm

$650 includes See You Mobile PNA

Richardwww.craggyaero.com

Hi

Could we get some more precise details on the Hardware ports on the
Unit?
which port for power input?
which port for RS232 communication?
Is there a single cable to connect to 302 for power and data?
will varios which have 5v output (like302) be sufficent to drive the
unit?
Will the unit also have Connect Me installed and will it work through
the RS232 connection or only Bluetooth?
What is the screen brightness, is it backlight and is it
transflective??

These would be my questions before purchasing this unit. I know they
are all available in the Ultimate but I
just consider that screen to large for Cockpit mounting.

Many thanks
Bruno

On Feb 6, 4:01*am, Mottley wrote:
On Feb 5, 11:08*pm, Richard wrote:

The new Naviter Oudie PNA device with preinstalled See You Mobile for
PNA scheduled be available in April.

To preorder see

http://www.craggyaero.com/oudie.htm

$650 includes See You Mobile PNA

Richardwww.craggyaero.com

Hi

Could we get some more precise details on the Hardware ports on the
Unit?
which port for power input?
which port for RS232 communication?
Is there a single cable to connect to 302 for power and data?
will varios which have 5v output (like302) be sufficent to drive the
unit?
Will the unit also have Connect Me installed and will it work through
the RS232 connection or only Bluetooth?
What is the screen brightness, is it backlight and is it
transflective??

These would be my questions before purchasing this unit. I know they
are all available in the Ultimate but I
just consider that screen to large for Cockpit mounting.

Many thanks
Bruno

The screen is a standard transflective LCD. All current consumer
portable device color LCD screens are transflective, we've had this
come up here before... the exception will be the switchable mode LCD
displays from Pixel Qi, but they are not shipping yet. So this PNA
display is likely no better daylight readable than most other screens
although the 5 inch size (slightly larger than other PDA/PNA) and
relatively low resolution (i.e. default larger font sizes that some
other PDA/PNA) may make it easier than some others to read in
daylight.

For other things can look up the specs for the underlying PNA device
which appears to be the Galilleo. (An interesting name choice for a
GPS based device). e.g. see
http://www.armatexx.eu/consumerelect...Bluetooth.html
(but note slight packaging differences between the pictures here and
the Naviter Oudie).

I'm not sure I understand the business model of reselling generic PNA
or PDA devices into the soaring market. Hopefully there is value add
in here somewhere (beyond pre-installing SeeYou Mobile?). Maybe
Richard can clarify what the differences are with the Oudie.

In this day of high resolution/high pixel density capacitive
touchscreen devices and emerging interesting display technology I am
hoping we'll see much better consumer electronics based devices
appearing that will make interesting platforms for soaring software.
Unfortunately (or fortunately?) they seem less and less likely to be
Windows CE/Windows Mobile based. My money is on Android as the next
interesting source of low cost/high performance consumer electronics/
economics driven platforms. Anything iPhone/iPod/iPad based is
uninteresting at the moment until the software platform is a bit more
open (e.g. starting with bluetooth serial profile support, etc. as
I've mentioned here before).

Darryl

On Feb 6, 5:28*am, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Feb 6, 4:01*am, Mottley wrote:





On Feb 5, 11:08*pm, Richard wrote:

The new Naviter Oudie PNA device with preinstalled See You Mobile for
PNA scheduled be available in April.

To preorder see

http://www.craggyaero.com/oudie.htm

$650 includes See You Mobile PNA

Richardwww.craggyaero.com

Hi

Could we get some more precise details on the Hardware ports on the
Unit?
which port for power input?
which port for RS232 communication?
Is there a single cable to connect to 302 for power and data?
will varios which have 5v output (like302) be sufficent to drive the
unit?
Will the unit also have Connect Me installed and will it work through
the RS232 connection or only Bluetooth?
What is the screen brightness, is it backlight and is it
transflective??

These would be my questions before purchasing this unit. I know they
are all available in the Ultimate but I
just consider that screen to large for Cockpit mounting.

Many thanks
Bruno

The screen is a standard transflective LCD. All current consumer
portable device color LCD screens are transflective, we've had this
come up here before... the exception will be the switchable mode LCD
displays from Pixel Qi, but they are not shipping yet. So this PNA
display is likely no better daylight readable than most other screens
although the 5 inch size (slightly larger than other PDA/PNA) and
relatively low resolution (i.e. default larger font sizes that some
other PDA/PNA) may make it easier than some others to read in
daylight.

For other things can look up the specs for the underlying PNA device
which appears to be the Galilleo. (An interesting name choice for a
GPS based device). e.g. seehttp://www.armatexx.eu/consumerelectronics/product_info.php?info=p281...
(but note slight packaging differences between the pictures here and
the Naviter Oudie).

I'm not sure I understand the business model of reselling generic PNA
or PDA devices into the soaring market. *Hopefully there is value add
in here somewhere (beyond pre-installing SeeYou Mobile?). Maybe
Richard can clarify what the differences are with the Oudie.

In this day of high resolution/high pixel density capacitive
touchscreen devices and emerging interesting display technology I am
hoping we'll see much better consumer electronics based devices
appearing that will make interesting platforms for soaring software.
Unfortunately (or fortunately?) they seem less and less likely to be
Windows CE/Windows Mobile based. My money is on Android as the next
interesting source of low cost/high performance consumer electronics/
economics driven platforms. Anything iPhone/iPod/iPad based is
uninteresting at the moment until the software platform is a bit more
open (e.g. starting with bluetooth serial profile support, etc. as
I've mentioned here before).

Darryl- Hide quoted text -

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Darryl,

I believe the serial port input is also a value of the Oudie and the
fact that See You will run in portrait with out the hacking required
on most other devices.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Hi

Thanks for all your replies regarding my questions

My opinion is that unless the RS232 Communication and Power supply
(and recharging of internal battery) IS PROVEN TO BE WORKING WITH A
SINGLE CABLE through the mini USB Port directly from a Vario there is
not much advantage of this unit against many other similar PNA Units
on the market. I see no transflective in the specification it is just
a very good backlight which will be washed out by direct sunlight but
which is good if the screen is tilted away from the sunlight.(same as
HP314)

Still waiting for units with either Pixel Qi or Qualcomms "Mirasol"
screensto come on the market.

Bruno

Hi Bruno,

I guess time will tell how good it is in sunlight. My guess is that it will
be better than any other PDA or PNA (other than perhaps the AV8OR). I think
it is a good price/performance compromise.

I'm confident that we will have single cable solutions available for
connection to any soaring instrument.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Mottley" wrote in message
...
Hi

Thanks for all your replies regarding my questions

My opinion is that unless the RS232 Communication and Power supply
(and recharging of internal battery) IS PROVEN TO BE WORKING WITH A
SINGLE CABLE through the mini USB Port directly from a Vario there is
not much advantage of this unit against many other similar PNA Units
on the market. I see no transflective in the specification it is just
a very good backlight which will be washed out by direct sunlight but
which is good if the screen is tilted away from the sunlight.(same as
HP314)

Still waiting for units with either Pixel Qi or Qualcomms "Mirasol"
screensto come on the market.

Bruno