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Hello Racers:
The rules for the 2010 racing season have been posted at SSA.org/ sailplane racing/rules&process. New this year is that the appendix to the rules now contains diagrams illustrating key concepts related to starts, finishes, safety finishes, tasks and turnpoints. Careful review of these is highly recommended, especially for pilots new to racing. Many thanks for John Godfrey and John Seaborn for this useful addition. Also new this year is the approval of the flyWithCE gps recorder for use in competition. Pilots planning to use this recorder should carefully read rules (and appendix notes for) 6.7.3.1 and 6.7.7. Good luck to all and have a safe and FUN season. For the Rules Committtee UH Chair |
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Also many thanks to Aland Adams for doing the technical development to
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Great news! I think the recorder development will help many people get
into their first contest that can't justify a $1,000 logger for their Ka-6 or 1-35. |
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On Feb 22, 2:15Â*pm, wrote:
Hello Racers: The rules for the 2010 racing season have been posted at SSA.org/ sailplane racing/rules&process. Thanks for posting. I had a quick review of the changed FAI regional rules and am very confused by this one: "10.8.5.1.3 ‡ Maximum Start Height shall be specified and labeled as MSL.." MSH has always been the difference in elevation between the home airport and the top of the start cylinder and 10.8.5.1 makes it clear this has not changed. For a home airport with an elevation of 5,000 ft MSL and an MSH of 5,000ft the top of the start cylinder is 10,000 ft MSL. Saying the MSH is 5000ft MSL is not valid. Saying the MSH is 10,000ft MSL is not valid. Statements that are valid a "Maximum Start Height is 5,000 ft." "MSH is 5,000 ft" "The top of the start cylinder is 10,000 ft MSL" Why does the rule say "Maximum Start Height shall be specified and labeled as MSL" ? It appears to be a meaningless statement that only adds to the confusion of MSH definition. How would MSH be specified under this rule for the scenario outlined above? Andy |
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Andy,
Where are you getting your definition of MSH? While this may have been clear to you it certianly wasn't clear to everyone. This rule just standardizes how we say it and makes sense in that the MSH number you are given is the number you read on your Altimeter. Perhaps I am missing an official definition of MSH, if so then the rules may need to be fixed to be consistant. Brian |
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On Feb 22, 4:25*pm, Brian wrote:
Andy, Where are you getting your definition of MSH? "10.8.5.1 Each task shall include a Maximum Start Height (MSH) above the home field. This height shall not be less than 3500' AGL nor more than 10000' AGL." Note that MSH is defined as height above the home field, not an MSL altitude. For the new rule to make any sense the terminology "Maximum Start HEIGHT" would need to be abandoned and a new term "Maximum Start ALTITUDE" would need to be used in its place. It would be proper and consistent to define Maximum Start Altitude as 10,000 ft MSL in my scenario above. Andy |
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On Feb 22, 6:48*pm, Andy wrote:
On Feb 22, 4:25*pm, Brian wrote: Andy, Where are you getting your definition of MSH? "10.8.5.1 Each task shall include a Maximum Start Height (MSH) above the home field. This height shall not be less than 3500' AGL nor more than 10000' AGL." Note that MSH is defined as height above the home field, not an MSL altitude. For the new rule to make any sense the terminology "Maximum Start HEIGHT" would need to be abandoned and a new term "Maximum Start ALTITUDE" would need to be used in its place. It would be proper and consistent to define Maximum Start Altitude as 10,000 ft MSL in my scenario above. Andy I think the point of the new rule is that the CD shall give the pilots the "MSH" as an MSL altitude. I.e. your task sheet says "10,000 MSL" -T8 |
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On Feb 22, 4:48*pm, Andy wrote:
On Feb 22, 4:25*pm, Brian wrote: Andy, Where are you getting your definition of MSH? "10.8.5.1 Each task shall include a Maximum Start Height (MSH) above the home field. This height shall not be less than 3500' AGL nor more than 10000' AGL." Note that MSH is defined as height above the home field, not an MSL altitude. For the new rule to make any sense the terminology "Maximum Start HEIGHT" would need to be abandoned and a new term "Maximum Start ALTITUDE" would need to be used in its place. It would be proper and consistent to define Maximum Start Altitude as 10,000 ft MSL in my scenario above. Andy Thanks Andy, I looked at that rule as well, But it is not a definition of MSH it is only guidence, actually a requirement of what the MSH altitude will be with reference to the ground. It makes sense to publish MSH number referenced to MSL, but there is no way to write rule 10.8.5.1 with reference to MSL as each site is obviously different. Brian |
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On Feb 22, 7:57*pm, Brian wrote:
On Feb 22, 4:48*pm, Andy wrote: On Feb 22, 4:25*pm, Brian wrote: Andy, Where are you getting your definition of MSH? "10.8.5.1 Each task shall include a Maximum Start Height (MSH) above the home field. This height shall not be less than 3500' AGL nor more than 10000' AGL." Note that MSH is defined as height above the home field, not an MSL altitude. For the new rule to make any sense the terminology "Maximum Start HEIGHT" would need to be abandoned and a new term "Maximum Start ALTITUDE" would need to be used in its place. It would be proper and consistent to define Maximum Start Altitude as 10,000 ft MSL in my scenario above. Andy Thanks Andy, I looked at that rule as well, But it is not a definition of MSH it is only guidence, actually a requirement of *what the MSH altitude will be with reference to the ground. It makes sense to publish MSH number referenced to MSL, but there is no way to write rule 10.8.5.1 *with reference to MSL as each site is obviously different. Brian- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There was a concious decision not to change MSH in rules as it also then affects scoring equations and the scoring program. We don't think the contestants will be confused, especially since they now have "pictures". Hopefully it will also lead to fewer arithmetic errors and associated penalties. Ray Lovingood wins the prize for finding the hidden typo in 2:27. . Now the rest of you can go nuts trying to find it. Cheers UH UH |
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