Blue Angels F-18A Hornet on E-Bay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 72


What do you guys think ??

Legit or bogus ?

What's the BUNO? It's likely an old A-4 or older?

Not fair to display a pic of an F-18 when it is obviously not the bird up
for auction!




Larry
AECS (AW/SW/MTS)
Disabled Combat Veteran
USN 'Retired'
Can't call it 'retired' when the Feds steal my 'retirement' check through
the Disabled Veterans Tax (how cute- they call it 'offset'. It's really just
theft!)




"Mr Smith" wrote in message
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 72


What do you guys think ??

Legit or bogus ?

Larry wrote:
What's the BUNO? It's likely an old A-4 or older?

Not fair to display a pic of an F-18 when it is obviously not the bird up
for auction!




Larry
AECS (AW/SW/MTS)
Disabled Combat Veteran
USN 'Retired'
Can't call it 'retired' when the Feds steal my 'retirement' check through
the Disabled Veterans Tax (how cute- they call it 'offset'. It's really just
theft!)




"Mr Smith" wrote in message
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 72


What do you guys think ??

Legit or bogus ?






Per bureau number, it is an F-18 and is a former Blue Angel
aircraft.

http://cgibin.rcn.com/jeremy.k/cgi-b...61973&series=3



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Lynn in StLou
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The ad clearly says it's an F-18. I'm predicing that it's a hoax. The
"buy it now" price of $800,000 seems a bit low.

Namsman

Larry wrote:

What's the BUNO? It's likely an old A-4 or older?

Not fair to display a pic of an F-18 when it is obviously not the bird up
for auction!

Larry
AECS (AW/SW/MTS)
Disabled Combat Veteran
USN 'Retired'
Can't call it 'retired' when the Feds steal my 'retirement' check through
the Disabled Veterans Tax (how cute- they call it 'offset'. It's really just
theft!)

"Mr Smith" wrote in message
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 72


What do you guys think ??

Legit or bogus ?

In article , "Larry"
wrote:

What's the BUNO? It's likely an old A-4 or older?

Not fair to display a pic of an F-18 when it is obviously not the bird up
for auction!

?? The description on the ebay page states it's an F/A-18A; doesn't
say anything about being an A-4. Also gives the serno, although not
buno.
Why do you think it's bogus?

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

Why do you think it's bogus?
The description is pretty vauge (at least to me) and the price seems pretty
low.

Besides, how many F-18's are available for sale anywhere else? I'm thinking
zero.

My 2 cents.


Larry
AECS (AW/SW/MTS)
Disabled Combat Veteran
USN 'Retired'
Can't call it 'retired' when the Feds steal my 'retirement' check through
the Disabled Veterans Tax (how cute- they call it 'offset'. It's really just
theft!)



"Harry Andreas" wrote in message
...
In article , "Larry"
wrote:

What's the BUNO? It's likely an old A-4 or older?

Not fair to display a pic of an F-18 when it is obviously not the bird
up
for auction!

?? The description on the ebay page states it's an F/A-18A; doesn't
say anything about being an A-4. Also gives the serno, although not
buno.
Why do you think it's bogus?

--
Harry Andreas
Engineering raconteur

Mr Smith wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 72

What do you guys think ??

Legit or bogus ?

This is the entry from Joe Baugher's database:

161973 was Blue Angels aircraft. Offered for public sale by Air Capitol
Warbirds as of Feb 2002

This is the search site ( very handy for issues like this!):
http://users.rcn.com/jeremy.k/serialSearch.html

Bob McKellar

On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 15:47:56 -0500, Bob McKellar
arranged phosphur particles on my screen with the following:


161973 was Blue Angels aircraft. Offered for public sale by Air Capitol
Warbirds as of Feb 2002

This is the search site ( very handy for issues like this!):
http://users.rcn.com/jeremy.k/serialSearch.html

Bob McKellar

Now that the issue has been settled I guess I'll put in my bid. seg

I contacted the seller, he states the aircraft is not
airworthy at this time and he's not the actual owner,
just brokering the sale. It would need to be "gone
over" before it can fly.

He also stated it has not been de-mil'd. Were F-18A's
in the Blue Angel's mission capable (outside their PR
role) ? I can't see how it would be legal to sell an
untouched, strike capable aircraft.

One would presume export control laws would apply if
a buyer in say, Iran, wanted to bid on it.

The Buy-It-Now price does seem rather low.

It might reflect a "I-need-to-get-rid-of-this-because
I-can't-insure-it" dilemma the owner has.

All the Hornet drivers here, if I'm a Citation X pilot
with 4500+ hrs, how difficult is landing a Hornet ?
I imagine the ONLY place one can acquire training on
them is in the Navy (Marines included).



"Greasy Rider" wrote in message
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2004 15:47:56 -0500, Bob McKellar
arranged phosphur particles on my screen with the following:


161973 was Blue Angels aircraft. Offered for public sale by Air Capitol
Warbirds as of Feb 2002

This is the search site ( very handy for issues like this!):
http://users.rcn.com/jeremy.k/serialSearch.html

Bob McKellar

Now that the issue has been settled I guess I'll put in my bid. seg

On 2/5/04 3:54 PM, in article , "Mr Smith"
wrote:


I contacted the seller, he states the aircraft is not
airworthy at this time and he's not the actual owner,
just brokering the sale. It would need to be "gone
over" before it can fly.

He also stated it has not been de-mil'd. Were F-18A's
in the Blue Angel's mission capable (outside their PR
role) ? I can't see how it would be legal to sell an
untouched, strike capable aircraft.

One would presume export control laws would apply if
a buyer in say, Iran, wanted to bid on it.

The Buy-It-Now price does seem rather low.

It might reflect a "I-need-to-get-rid-of-this-because
I-can't-insure-it" dilemma the owner has.

All the Hornet drivers here, if I'm a Citation X pilot
with 4500+ hrs, how difficult is landing a Hornet ?
I imagine the ONLY place one can acquire training on
them is in the Navy (Marines included).



There are a couple of "gotchas" in just flying the thing, but nothing a few
flights wouldn't iron out.

If you've never experienced flight gear, that would be a new treat (helmet,
mask, torso harness, g-suit).

Since the motors are way in the back (35 or so feet behind you), you'd have
to get used to the "detached" sensation of flying the jet. There is no air
noise or airframe feedback with regard to airspeed or engine power setting
whatsoever. The airplane feels the same flying at 180 kts at 30000 feet as
it does at 550 kts at 500 feet. A good instrument scan is a must.

WRT landings, the HUD makes them pretty easy. On this Lot 6, you may find
single chamber struts which means CV type landing is probably not a good
idea (max trap for single chamber struts was 30,500 lbs vice the 33k UNR or
34K Restricted for the current F/A-18). Pretty simple stuff to flare a
landing in the Hornet though. I have taken guests into the simulator, and
the ones with some flight time do fairly well at getting it on the runway.

The biggest landing obstacle would be encouraging you NOT using a forward
slip as a crosswind correction--makes the airplane do the funky chicken on
the runway. OBTW, no localizer, ILS, VOR. Either fly TACAN approaches or
PAR in the weather (if you want a precision approach).

--Woody