7" Tablets will include pixel qi screens

How soon will WinPilot and SeeYou Mobile (or XCSoar) run on Android?

I will buy one of the 7" Tablets when they add the Pixel Qi screen.


http://www.gottabemobile.com/2010/09...-inch-screens/

On Sep 20, 6:55*pm, Tim Taylor wrote:
How soon will WinPilot and SeeYou Mobile (or XCSoar) run on Android?

I will buy one of the 7" Tablets when they add the Pixel Qi screen.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2010/09...es-7-inch-scre...

Pipe Dream comes to mind.

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

Tim Taylor wrote:
How soon will WinPilot and SeeYou Mobile (or XCSoar) run on Android?

XCSoar will run on Android by next year. It already runs on desktop
Linux (not well, but it runs). I'm working on it. Long way to go,
but the winter's coming.

Linux/Android will be the primary target operating system for XCSoar,
because Windows Mobile 7 does not allow running XCSoar (or any other
existing software). It is not compatible with prior versions.

Max

At 05:21 21 September 2010, Max Kellermann wrote:

XCSoar will run on Android by next year. It already runs on desktop
Linux (not well, but it runs). I'm working on it. Long way to go,
but the winter's coming.

Linux/Android will be the primary target operating system for ,
because Windows Mobile 7 does not allow running XCSoar (or any other
existing software). It is not compatible with prior versions.

Max


Max,

How do you define 'not well'? Have you actually hand-ported it, or are
you using wine/winelib with the win32 version? Does it only work on x86?
Any showstopper bugs? Do you want testers? Where is the code - in a GIT
repo somewhere?

I ask this because I have a Nokia N900 in my pocket right now, and was
kinda wondering if it would compile/run on that. Specs a

Debian-based 2.6.xx linux (Can run straight Debian/Ubuntu ARM
edition/Android too)
800mhz OMAP3/ArmCortexA8
800x480 *TRANSFLECTIVE* LCD (Readable in direct sunlight)
OpenGLES 1.0/1.1/2.0
256mb DDR2 ram
32GB Flash
GPS
serial ports
bluetooth
etc etc.

I have a bit experience with hacking linux on embedded devices,
especially trying to shoehorn Debian/Ubuntu onto anything i can get my
hands on, but passionately hate having to code in C/C++ if i can at all
avoid it. I have already been tempted to try a compile of the Win32
version of XCSoar with WINElib anyway, but if there is a genuine Linux
port underway, i would like to help in any (reasonable) way I can. The
same goes for Paulo & his LK8000 SW too.

Thanks,

Mike

Michael Jaworski wrote:
How do you define 'not well'? Have you actually hand-ported it, or are
you using wine/winelib with the win32 version? Does it only work on x86?
Any showstopper bugs? Do you want testers? Where is the code - in a GIT
repo somewhere?

Hi Mike,

we have hand-ported it ("the right way"), by writing an OO abstraction
layer for GDI calls, and incrementally writing a port based on SDL /
SDL_gfx. There shall be another backend for OpenGL.

"Not well" because it's slow and flickers: no double buffering; child
windows are emulated by creating an internal SDL_Surface, and copying
these over and over. Too much overhead for any embedded device, and
SDL_gfx does not use hardware acceleration. The first goal was
reached: to make it run with a native Linux binary. Optimization
comes next.

You can get the most current sources from my git repository:

git clone git://git.snow-crash.org/xcsoar.git
http://max.kellermann.name/projects/xcsoar/

Have fun hacking it! And remember to submit patches back to us.

Max

Probably they already work (if they can work with no keys, only touchscreen
I mean).
VMware was seen running on android some months ago.

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How soon will WinPilot and SeeYou Mobile (or XCSoar) run on Android?

I will buy one of the 7" Tablets when they add the Pixel Qi screen.


http://www.gottabemobile.com/2010/09...-inch-screens/

PCool wrote:
Probably they already work (if they can work with no keys, only touchscreen
I mean).
VMware was seen running on android some months ago.

You mean Android/x86 running on VMWare? That's trivial, but useless
for your case.

Max

There was a video of VMWARE running on an Android platform.
Over 1.5 years ago also a Symbian phone was running both CE and Android
under vmware.
I meant that once VMware is running on Android (as it is already doing on
linux), then you can run whatever OS on android.
Since xcsoar is running also in Win32, it is supposed to work as well on an
XP platform running under vmware.
Or a CE platform running under vmware.
The speed of CPU is by no mean an issue. In 24 months all of those platforms
will be 1Ghz, while the PDA-PNA software can run on 200mhz.
I think it will be a good solution for many applications.


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PCool wrote:
Probably they already work (if they can work with no keys, only
touchscreen
I mean).
VMware was seen running on android some months ago.

You mean Android/x86 running on VMWare? That's trivial, but useless
for your case.

Max

PCool wrote:
There was a video of VMWARE running on an Android platform.

Found that video. It's a hypervisor which can run Android and Windows
CE in parallel. It's not technically "VMWare on Android", but rather
"Android on VMWare". The demo is already 1,5 years old, and I'm not
holding my breath for the real product.

For this to support LK8000 (or older XCSoar versions), a user needs to
buy a Windows CE license. And of course the VMWare license.

I guess buying a used Windows PDA is cheaper. And faster.

XCSoar 6.0 will be able run on a fully free operating system, with no
additional cost, and no rendering overhead. We will use blazingly
fast OpenGL rendering on Android.

Max

We shall see. VMware's products are bullet proof, and their players are free
of charge.
Concerning hardware, the problem with tablets is that they will be large in
screen.
Over 5 inches it becomes a problem for most pilots, not to mention
paragliding people.

What is the time schedule for releasing the 6.0 by the way?
So I can plan the release of my 2.0 (hehe).

Paolo


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PCool wrote:
There was a video of VMWARE running on an Android platform.

Found that video. It's a hypervisor which can run Android and Windows
CE in parallel. It's not technically "VMWare on Android", but rather
"Android on VMWare". The demo is already 1,5 years old, and I'm not
holding my breath for the real product.

For this to support LK8000 (or older XCSoar versions), a user needs to
buy a Windows CE license. And of course the VMWare license.

I guess buying a used Windows PDA is cheaper. And faster.

XCSoar 6.0 will be able run on a fully free operating system, with no
additional cost, and no rendering overhead. We will use blazingly
fast OpenGL rendering on Android.

Max