Hangar rent

I don't know if this has been covered before, but how much is everyone
paying for their hangars and what is provided?

Mine is a T-hanger with a dirt floor, free electric and manual doors that
are a bear to open and close. The hangar is damp of course, but not too
bad.

When we first secured it the rent was 240.00 and no lease. A few months
later it went up to 280.00 and no lease. Just last month we got our fuel
bill and the hangar rent went up again to 300.00 and the owner refuses to
give us a lease.

That's a 60.00/mo. increase in less than a year. The rumor has it that the
owner is going to keep raising the rent until people start moving out and
there are a few empty hangars. At that point he feels they will be priced
properly.

My question is: at what price would you walk out of a dirt floor T-hangar
with free electric and stiff manual doors? There are no other local
airports with similar hangars that are empty. A tie-down goes for 65.00/mo.

Kobra

On 6-Nov-2003, "Kobra" wrote:

Mine is a T-hanger with a dirt floor, free electric and manual doors that
are a bear to open and close. The hangar is damp of course, but not too
bad.

When we first secured it the rent was 240.00 and no lease. A few months
later it went up to 280.00 and no lease. Just last month we got our fuel
bill and the hangar rent went up again to 300.00 and the owner refuses to
give us a lease.

Whereabouts are you located?

We have a nice T-hangar with a concrete floor, manual doors (that work
reasonably well), "free" electricity for $220/mo at PAE (Everett, WA). PAE
just built some really spiffy new T-hangars with electric doors and all the
trimmings that go for about $350/mo. I believe there are waiting lists for
enclosed hangars at all major airports in the Puget Sound region.

--
-Elliott Drucker

I'm in NJ at N14. There's a waiting list here too. The owner has a zoning
approval for 30 more hangars, but he refuses to build them. He is afraid
that it will devalue the existing hangars.

I don't get it. I'd rather have 30 more hangars taking in 350/mo. with
planes in them buying fuel, food, oil and supplies than the status quo
paying 50.00 more per month.

Kobra

In North Texas about 70 miles north of Dallas I pay $155/month with a
concrete floor, sliding doors, and pretty clean. There is another set
that are built the same but older and have varing degrees of concrete
and asphalt for the same price. the end T-hangar and a half rents for
$175 because they are larger. 100LL is $1.89 weekdays adn $1.84
weekends. the city is planning on building new hangars and there is a
proposed rent increase. We have 24 hour access to our terminal and 24
hour credit card fuel. Now, the closer you go to Dallas the more hangars
go for. We have the really work to keep the rent reasonable. I was the
chairman of the airport board for 5 years.

Kobra wrote:

I'm in NJ at N14. There's a waiting list here too. The owner has a zoning
approval for 30 more hangars, but he refuses to build them. He is afraid
that it will devalue the existing hangars.

I don't get it. I'd rather have 30 more hangars taking in 350/mo. with
planes in them buying fuel, food, oil and supplies than the status quo
paying 50.00 more per month.

Kobra

Gainesville or Bridgeport?

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:43:41 -0600, Ross Richardson
wrote:

In North Texas about 70 miles north of Dallas I pay $155/month with a
concrete floor, sliding doors, and pretty clean. There is another set
that are built the same but older and have varing degrees of concrete
and asphalt for the same price. the end T-hangar and a half rents for
$175 because they are larger. 100LL is $1.89 weekdays adn $1.84
weekends. the city is planning on building new hangars and there is a
proposed rent increase. We have 24 hour access to our terminal and 24
hour credit card fuel. Now, the closer you go to Dallas the more hangars
go for. We have the really work to keep the rent reasonable. I was the
chairman of the airport board for 5 years.

Kobra wrote:

I'm in NJ at N14. There's a waiting list here too. The owner has a zoning
approval for 30 more hangars, but he refuses to build them. He is afraid
that it will devalue the existing hangars.

I don't get it. I'd rather have 30 more hangars taking in 350/mo. with
planes in them buying fuel, food, oil and supplies than the status quo
paying 50.00 more per month.

Kobra

$300 is just about the going rate in NJ.

Greg Piney

Kobra wrote:
I'm in NJ at N14. There's a waiting list here too. The owner has a zoning
approval for 30 more hangars, but he refuses to build them. He is afraid
that it will devalue the existing hangars.

I don't get it. I'd rather have 30 more hangars taking in 350/mo. with
planes in them buying fuel, food, oil and supplies than the status quo
paying 50.00 more per month.

Kobra

In article , "Kobra"
wrote:

I don't know if this has been covered before, but how much is everyone
paying for their hangars and what is provided?

$459/month

electricity (not metered), but only 1 15 amp circuit (not including
the door)

electric bifold doors

asphalt floor

I think it's 44' wide or 46' wide.

Rumor has it that Massport does a good job plowing.

--
Bob Noel

You at Bedford, Bob? This is my first season owning there, I'm at the Tower
Ramp tiedowns, which cost $110/mo for a 172.

Don't forget that $500 also gets you the chance to pay $75 to get
fingerprinted, and for no extra money the guards at the air force base will
harass you when you try to drive up if your auto inspection sticker is out
of date.

As for how good a job Massport does plowing, I just hope they do better than
the state does on 128.

-cwk.

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
...
In article , "Kobra"
wrote:

I don't know if this has been covered before, but how much is everyone
paying for their hangars and what is provided?

$459/month

electricity (not metered), but only 1 15 amp circuit (not including
the door)

electric bifold doors

asphalt floor

I think it's 44' wide or 46' wide.

Rumor has it that Massport does a good job plowing.

--
Bob Noel

In article k.net,
"Colin Kingsbury" wrote:

You at Bedford, Bob?

yes sir.

This is my first season owning there, I'm at the
Tower
Ramp tiedowns, which cost $110/mo for a 172.

well, the tie-downs had been $85/month since before 1994.


Don't forget that $500 also gets you the chance to pay $75 to get
fingerprinted, and for no extra money the guards at the air force base
will
harass you when you try to drive up if your auto inspection sticker is
out
of date.

don't forget to buckle your seatbelt.

(actually, I don't need to get on HAFB to get to my hangar).



As for how good a job Massport does plowing, I just hope they do better
than
the state does on 128.

They do. This is my first year in a T-hangar, but massport did
a decent job plowing the tie-downs the years I had my airplane
on the east ramp. Note that they can cut your ropes if they
plow when your airplane is not there. Shovelling out what
isn't plowed is no fun - I used to use a snowblower to (carefully)
clear out the airplane.

--
Bob Noel

IIRC, it went from $50/mo to $85/mo in 1992 or 1993, and back then the ramp
plowing was random. Sometimes it would be plowed pretty close to the
airplane, others you'd have to shovel out a 50' path between the airplane and
the shovelled lane. $110/mo is ridiculous. Even PVD, which doesn't want us
there, is only $52/mo for tiedowns, and they'll often do what they can to
stuff you in a hangar if there is severe weather predicted.

Bob Noel wrote:

In article k.net,
"Colin Kingsbury" wrote:

You at Bedford, Bob?

yes sir.

This is my first season owning there, I'm at the
Tower
Ramp tiedowns, which cost $110/mo for a 172.

well, the tie-downs had been $85/month since before 1994.

Don't forget that $500 also gets you the chance to pay $75 to get
fingerprinted, and for no extra money the guards at the air force base
will
harass you when you try to drive up if your auto inspection sticker is
out
of date.

don't forget to buckle your seatbelt.

(actually, I don't need to get on HAFB to get to my hangar).


As for how good a job Massport does plowing, I just hope they do better
than
the state does on 128.

They do. This is my first year in a T-hangar, but massport did
a decent job plowing the tie-downs the years I had my airplane
on the east ramp. Note that they can cut your ropes if they
plow when your airplane is not there. Shovelling out what
isn't plowed is no fun - I used to use a snowblower to (carefully)
clear out the airplane.

--
Bob Noel

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