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Old October 15th 03, 06:01 PM
Corky Scott
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Do TFR's affect only VFR traffic, or can you file IFR with a flight
plan and discrete transponder code and still fly through a TFR?

Corky Scott
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Old October 15th 03, 06:57 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Corky Scott" wrote in message ...
Do TFR's affect only VFR traffic, or can you file IFR with a flight
plan and discrete transponder code and still fly through a TFR?

Depends on the TFR (and in some cases what part of the TFR) you
are transiting.



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Old October 15th 03, 09:24 PM
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message


Depends on the TFR (and in some cases what part of the TFR) you
are transiting.


....like the "expanded P-56" TFR whenever a VIP is in residence.

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Old October 15th 03, 09:23 PM
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Do TFR's affect only VFR traffic, or can you file IFR with a flight
plan and discrete transponder code and still fly through a TFR?


When the prezdint came to Portsmouth PSM and Manchester MHT last week,
the TFR had two components. There was a 30-mile zone in which all
aircraft had to be under the control of ATC and squawking a discrete
transponder code. That effectively grounded all the Piper Cubs in most
of the state.

In addition, there was a 10-mile no-fly zone around each airport,
which terminated earlier (and may have started later; I don't know).
Only military, scheduled airliners, and other important traffic could
fly with that zone. General aviation was held on the ground until Air
Force One was clear of Boston.

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Old October 16th 03, 02:34 AM
vincent p. norris
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Do TFR's affect only VFR traffic, or can you file IFR with a flight
plan and discrete transponder code and still fly through a TFR?


Corky, Penn State's football stadium is less than three miles from the
airport (UNV), so the TFR that is set up whenever there's a football
game there includes UNV.

As I understand it, planes flying in for the game within three hours
of kickoff time must arrive IFR. But we can depart VFR (and fly AWAY)
from the stadium) by contacting NY Center before take-off.

vince norris
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Old October 16th 03, 02:55 AM
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I takeoff from Bremerton and fly IFR through the Bremerton TFR all the time.

Karl


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Old October 16th 03, 05:51 PM
Corky Scott
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:55:26 -0700, "karl gruber"
wrote:

I takeoff from Bremerton and fly IFR through the Bremerton TFR all the time.

Karl


Karl, why does Bremerton rate/require a TFR?

Thanks, Corky Scott

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Old October 16th 03, 06:27 PM
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"Corky Scott" wrote in message
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| On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:55:26 -0700, "karl gruber"
| wrote:
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| I takeoff from Bremerton and fly IFR through the Bremerton TFR all the
time.
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| Karl
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| Karl, why does Bremerton rate/require a TFR?
|

Puget Sound Naval Shipyard. The Puget Sound Navy (which apparently does not
think it is the United States Navy), has put up no-fly zones around several
of its bases and publicly threatened to shoot down any airplane that enters
the TFRs or even comes 'too close,' whatever that is.

The only thing comparable that I can think of is in the Middle East, when
the Saudi Army got new Patriot missiles they threatened to shoot down any
Saudi Air Force plane that overflew one of their installations.


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Old October 16th 03, 08:20 PM
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"Corky Scott" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 18:55:26 -0700, "karl gruber"
wrote:

I takeoff from Bremerton and fly IFR through the Bremerton TFR all the

time.

Karl


Karl, why does Bremerton rate/require a TFR?


Lots of expensive aircraft carriers that they don't want you to dent with a
172.

-- David Brooks


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Old October 16th 03, 12:54 PM
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On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 21:34:29 -0400, vincent p. norris
wrote:

Corky, Penn State's football stadium is less than three miles from the
airport (UNV), so the TFR that is set up whenever there's a football
game there includes UNV.


Related (but slightly sidebar) question for Vincent. Please forgive
me if it should have been a new topic.

Vincent, in your experience, have there been TFRs established around
the time of the arts festival? I'm thinking that what you're referring
to is a result of the stadium being full, but I'm wondering now about
other busy public events in your area. Certainly, one of the things
I'd like to do with a certificate is to fly to the festival from the
Pittsburgh area.

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Kay
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