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Okay folks, help me out here. How about some of you old timers weigh in on the Mosquito. Handling? One man rigging? Possible dollar range? Let me know what you think, I don't know squat.
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On Feb 27, 11:06*am, Walt Connelly Walt.Connelly.
wrote: Okay folks, help me out here. *How about some of you old timers weigh in on the Mosquito. *Handling? *One man rigging? *Possible dollar range? Let me know what you think, I don't know squat. Walt -- Walt Connelly Walt I beleive the Mosquito and Mini N share the same wing and both have automatic control hookups, which is a real plus. Very roomy cockpit and a good handling ship. I have never cared for the flap/divebrake setup on the Mosquito and early Ventus. It is hard to adapt to the feel, but the effectiveness is second to none. Richard Walters |
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On Feb 27, 2:52*pm, Rick Walters wrote:
On Feb 27, 11:06*am, Walt Connelly Walt.Connelly. wrote: Okay folks, help me out here. *How about some of you old timers weigh in on the Mosquito. *Handling? *One man rigging? *Possible dollar range? Let me know what you think, I don't know squat. Walt -- Walt Connelly Walt I beleive the Mosquito and Mini N share the same wing and both have automatic control hookups, which is a real plus. Very roomy cockpit and a good handling ship. I have never cared for the flap/divebrake setup on the Mosquito and early Ventus. It is hard to adapt to the feel, but the effectiveness is second to none. Richard Walters I loved my Mosquito. Flies as well as anything from the era as long as it's well sealed (like the Ventus). It is, bay far, the easiest rigging glider I've seen, though the wings are a bit heavy as compared to the new ships. I enjoyed the flap/divebrake system and you can land precisely and very short. The approach is steep with it all hanging out, which surprises a lot of people. As well, people tend to land them a little hot at first - but once you have the speeds in the right range, it's a pussycat. The wheel brake lever on the A model (located just in front of the stick) isn't a great location, but you get used to it. Ergonomics are great and the cockpit is huge. Everyone I spoke to who had owned one or flown one had happy memories. IMHO, you can't beat the bang of the buck. ~$25-30k for one in good shape, depending on instruments and trailer. Closer to $22k or so if it's a little rougher. Lots of good info and support: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mosquitos/ The type is still supported and parts available: http://www.streifly.de/home-e.htm These are some of the guys that are supporting the Concordia! Cheers, Derek |
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What the others noted, with added belief that the canopy mechanism
takes more getting used to than the flap/brake combination. Jim |
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On Feb 27, 10:09*pm, JS wrote:
What the others noted, with added belief that the canopy mechanism takes more getting used to than the flap/brake combination. Jim I am not an owner but have flown quite a few hours on the glider. It is very easy to handle. Performance might be a bit off compared to other gliders of the era, certainly Venti or ASW20. This probably is important for a few. But there is plenty of performance left. I do not know your current experience but with a bit of plastic hours on your log you should have no issues with flying it. Canopy indeed is a bit of a trick. And when this thread becomes longer people may warn you for the flaps. But just try them and maintain your speed. For a first time only pull them at the edge of the airfield (not before) and put the glider down (providing the field has a fair lenght). This will help you to understand the effectiveness from which you can start playing/learning. My record has been a decent at around 25 m/s (true vertical) at a 180 kph stable speed (so vertical 50 knots; ias 100 knots). Great fun! |
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On Feb 27, 12:06*pm, Walt Connelly Walt.Connelly.
wrote: Okay folks, help me out here. *How about some of you old timers weigh in on the Mosquito. *Handling? *One man rigging? *Possible dollar range? Let me know what you think, I don't know squat. Walt -- Walt Connelly Hi Walt Have you checked with the swarm? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mosquitos/ |
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You're never too high in a Mosquito. With that trailing edge, you can fly
straight down without exceeding the redline. I've done it. As for lacking performance, here's a flight I did last summer in a borrowed ship: http://www.onlinecontest.org/olc-2.0...l?dsId=2054684 "Mike" wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 12:06 pm, Walt Connelly Walt.Connelly. wrote: Okay folks, help me out here. How about some of you old timers weigh in on the Mosquito. Handling? One man rigging? Possible dollar range? Let me know what you think, I don't know squat. Walt -- Walt Connelly Hi Walt Have you checked with the swarm? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mosquitos/ |
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I used to own the one tested by Dick Johnson. What every one else
said, great ship. They are a bit heavy being polyester epoxy ships and stoutly built, about 7+ lbs wing loading unballasted, and not the best light air climbers. Never flew it with water. I never heard of someone not liking the handling. mj |
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On 2/27/2012 3:11 PM, Mark Jardini wrote:
I used to own the one tested by Dick Johnson. What every one else said, great ship. They are a bit heavy being polyester epoxy ships and stoutly built, about 7+ lbs wing loading unballasted, and not the best light air climbers. Never flew it with water. I never heard of someone not liking the handling. mj Being either precise or anal, "polyester epoxy"? My understanding is Mosquitos are epoxy resin, "all fiberglass" ships (i.e. no carbon or Kevlar/polyamide), which is to say, their construction materials are typical of many first/2nd generation "glass gliders." The only polyester resin glider I was ever (vaguely) aware of was the (never actually produced, so far as I'm aware) Torva. Never flown a Mosquito, was wingtip grunt for one many times, ditto all prior rigging comments. Never noticed any of its owners having to "fuss with" the canopy mechanism. I believe (didn't check prior to posting) Mosquitos also have the parallellogram stick, do they not? Always seemed like a good idea to me (as compared to either an "S-curve" or sharply angled back one). Other than the untimely death of Eugen Hanle and Glasflugel not-long-thereafter being purchased-by/absorbed-into Schempp-Hirth, I've long thought the innovative (and used for a while by Schempp-Hirth...and also Slingsby on the Vega) trailing edge flap/dive brake was the only "fly in the ointment" somewhat balking the Mosquito's more general acceptance. We glider pilots tend to be SO conservative in our "what's acceptable in a glider" views. :-) Have Fun! Bob W. |
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On Feb 27, 6:25*pm, BobW wrote:
On 2/27/2012 3:11 PM, Mark Jardini wrote: I used to own the one tested by Dick Johnson. What every one else said, great ship. They are a bit heavy being polyester epoxy ships and stoutly built, about 7+ lbs wing loading unballasted, and not the best light air climbers. Never flew it with water. I never heard of someone not liking the handling. mj Being either precise or anal, "polyester epoxy"? My understanding is Mosquitos are epoxy resin, "all fiberglass" ships (i.e. no carbon or Kevlar/polyamide), which is to say, their construction materials are typical of many first/2nd generation "glass gliders." The only polyester resin glider I was ever (vaguely) aware of was the (never actually produced, so far as I'm aware) Torva. Never flown a Mosquito, was wingtip grunt for one many times, ditto all prior rigging comments. Never noticed any of its owners having to "fuss with" the canopy mechanism. I believe (didn't check prior to posting) Mosquitos also have the parallellogram stick, do they not? Always seemed like a good idea to me (as compared to either an "S-curve" or sharply angled back one). Other than the untimely death of Eugen Hanle and Glasflugel not-long-thereafter being purchased-by/absorbed-into Schempp-Hirth, I've long thought the innovative (and used for a while by Schempp-Hirth...and also Slingsby on the Vega) trailing edge flap/dive brake was the only "fly in the ointment" somewhat balking the Mosquito's more general acceptance. We glider pilots tend to be SO conservative in our "what's acceptable in a glider" views. :-) Have Fun! Bob W. The Finish Utu used polyester resin-I think. |
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