Sunlight readable Oudie - get yours upgraded!

Hey group!

We are very excited to announce that a Sunlight readable Oudie will
become available shortly (mid April) and maybe even more significantly
that we went into considerable trouble and will be be able to upgrade
your old Oudie too!

Full news announcement is he
http://www.naviter.si/content/view/148/1/lang,en/

We will be happy to discuss it here on r.a.s. as well.

Cheers,
Andrej Kolar
--
glider pilots use
http://www.Naviter.com/

Hi,

I'm very exited about this new sunlight-readable Oudie. The original
Oudie's were extremely popular for many reasons: great SeeYou Mobile
software pre-installed, airports and airspace and vector maps for most of
the world pre-installed, non-volatile memory (it doesn't lose its memory if
the battery gets low), large display in a small package, power/data cables
and cradle included, etc. The only complaint I ever heard about the
original Oudie was that we all wished it could be brighter. It was already
brighter than other color PDAs and PNAs. But now it is much, much brighter.
The price in the USA for the new units will be $600.

The great news is that all existing Oudies can be upgraded to the new
screen. The upgrade must be done in Slovenia. I will be accepting Oudies
here at my office for bulk shipments to Slovenia to reduce shipping costs.
The upgrade price is $240. I think that is quite reasonable considering you
will get a unit back that is easy to read in sunlight - with all the great
features of the original Oudie. Please don't send your Oudies to me yet
because upgrades won't be available until mid April.

I'll have details and photos on my web site later today. You can pre-order
the new Oudie now, he
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
_________________________________________


"Andrej Kolar" wrote in message
...
Hey group!

We are very excited to announce that a Sunlight readable Oudie will
become available shortly (mid April) and maybe even more significantly
that we went into considerable trouble and will be be able to upgrade
your old Oudie too!

Full news announcement is he
http://www.naviter.si/content/view/148/1/lang,en/

We will be happy to discuss it here on r.a.s. as well.

Cheers,
Andrej Kolar
--
glider pilots use
http://www.Naviter.com/

Hi,

I have added a lot of new information on the new brighter Oudie to my web
site. They are already pre-selling very well. If you want one in April,
you may want to order soon. You can see details he
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm#News
and
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyo...Naviter-Oudie2

I have a few new, original version Oudies for sale for $495 (while supplies
last). If you buy one of these you will have something to fly with for the
start of the soaring season, and you can still get it upgraded with the
brighter screen over the winter (for about $240). Or buy one of these as a
backup unit.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm#Naviter-Oudie

If you have a good, used Oudie and are considering upgrading to the new
brighter version, you may want to check out my offer to sell your used Oudie
for you. It will cost you less to buy a new brighter Oudie and have me sell
your existing Oudie for $395 than it would cost to get your Oudie upgraded.
Another advantage of this approach is that you won't need to be without your
Oudie during the soaring season as you would be if you sent the Oudie in for
upgrade in April. You can see details he
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyo... udie_For_You

I anticipate receiving some good used units from customers that I will be
selling for them for $395. They will be tested by me and have the latest
software installed. All accessories will be included. Those are great
prices for ready-to-fly, "Cumulus Soaring Tested" Oudie systems.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyo...ter-Oudie-Used

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
____________________________________

"Paul Remde" wrote in message
...
Hi,

I'm very exited about this new sunlight-readable Oudie. The original
Oudie's were extremely popular for many reasons: great SeeYou Mobile
software pre-installed, airports and airspace and vector maps for most of
the world pre-installed, non-volatile memory (it doesn't lose its memory if
the battery gets low), large display in a small package, power/data cables
and cradle included, etc. The only complaint I ever heard about the
original Oudie was that we all wished it could be brighter. It was already
brighter than other color PDAs and PNAs. But now it is much, much brighter.
The price in the USA for the new units will be $600.

The great news is that all existing Oudies can be upgraded to the new
screen. The upgrade must be done in Slovenia. I will be accepting Oudies
here at my office for bulk shipments to Slovenia to reduce shipping costs.
The upgrade price is $240. I think that is quite reasonable considering you
will get a unit back that is easy to read in sunlight - with all the great
features of the original Oudie. Please don't send your Oudies to me yet
because upgrades won't be available until mid April.

I'll have details and photos on my web site later today. You can pre-order
the new Oudie now, he
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/seeyou.htm

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
_________________________________________


"Andrej Kolar" wrote in message
...
Hey group!

We are very excited to announce that a Sunlight readable Oudie will
become available shortly (mid April) and maybe even more significantly
that we went into considerable trouble and will be be able to upgrade
your old Oudie too!

Full news announcement is he
http://www.naviter.si/content/view/148/1/lang,en/

We will be happy to discuss it here on r.a.s. as well.

Cheers,
Andrej Kolar
--
glider pilots use
http://www.Naviter.com/

On Mar 2, 4:25*am, Andrej Kolar wrote:
Hey group!

We are very excited to announce that a Sunlight readable Oudie will
become available shortly (mid April) and maybe even more significantly
that we went into considerable trouble and will be be able to upgrade
your old Oudie too!

Full news announcement is hehttp://www.naviter.si/content/view/148/1/lang,en/

We will be happy to discuss it here on r.a.s. as well.

Cheers,
Andrej Kolar
--
glider pilots usehttp://www.Naviter.com/

The Sunlight readable Oudie is avialable from Craggy Aero LLC the
leader in Sunlight Readable Technology with the Ultimate Le.

See for details:

http://www.craggyaero.com/oudie.htm

Many think that the sunlight readability of a display is primiarily
due to the brightness. Brightness is a factor in some displays but
the overriding factor is contrast ratio.

Contrast ratio is important in high and full sunlight applications.
Contrast ratio of a display is defined as the luminance (brightness)
ratio between a brighter state and a darker state. The color LCDs
“white” state and “black” state are used to calculate the contrast
ratio.
Contrast ratio = CR = luminance of the “white” /luminance of the
“black”.
If white and black are equally bright, then CR = 1 and the display is
not readable. High contrast ratios makes the view in direct sunlight
less dependent on the backlight intensity.



Richard
www.craggyaero.

200 E + VAT + round trip shipping to Europe = $270 USD + $45 + $65 =
$380 USD and 4-6 weeks? Sound about right?

Innitially that seems rather expensive to me. The ones upgrading have
already spend $600 and will have nearly $1000 invested in the product
after the upgrade is completed. $1000.

Is the upgrade just the screen? Or are their other enhancements such
as processor, battery? How about an IGC approved logger? Maybe an
miniatureized espresso machine? :-)

I thank you for improving your product but the price of the upgrade is
approaching that of an iPad 2 (http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/
shop_ipad/family/ipad)

The price of a new Sunlight readable Oudie is set at $600. Expensive
as the hardware, minus the screen upgrade, is likely very outdated.
In my opinion this upgrade price is so high that it is not worth it
for current owners.

I would like to offer my Oudie for sale at $400 USD. Included are all
the mounts, cases and charges (wall and car). I used it last season
in contests such as Uvalde, which was lots of sunny blue days, and it
worked fine! Contact me at if you are interested.
Thx.

Sean

On Mar 2, 9:28*am, Richard wrote:
On Mar 2, 4:25*am, Andrej Kolar wrote:

Hey group!

We are very excited to announce that a Sunlight readable Oudie will
become available shortly (mid April) and maybe even more significantly
that we went into considerable trouble and will be be able to upgrade
your old Oudie too!

Full news announcement is hehttp://www.naviter.si/content/view/148/1/lang,en/

We will be happy to discuss it here on r.a.s. as well.

Cheers,
Andrej Kolar
--
glider pilots usehttp://www.Naviter.com/

The Sunlight readable Oudie *is avialable from Craggy Aero LLC *the
leader in Sunlight Readable Technology with the Ultimate Le.

See for details:

http://www.craggyaero.com/oudie.htm

Many think that the sunlight readability of a display is primiarily
due to the brightness. *Brightness is a factor in some displays but
the overriding factor is contrast ratio.

Contrast ratio is important in high and full sunlight applications.
Contrast ratio of a display is defined as the luminance (brightness)
ratio between a brighter state and a darker state. *The color LCDs
“white” state and “black” state are used to calculate the contrast
ratio.
*Contrast ratio = CR = luminance of the “white” /luminance of the
“black”.
*If white and black are equally bright, then CR = 1 and the display is
not readable. * High contrast ratios makes the view in direct sunlight
less dependent on the backlight intensity.

Richardwww.craggyaero.

Folks - putting my comments here as well -

I think Naviters announcement is good news for everyone - The Naviter
folks are good guys - they are using the same display as mine I
think. If you already have an Oudie, it can be a good way to go -

BUT

E200 is $260+ after conversion which is about the same price as my
entire unit- And you have to mail yours in, wait for them to turn it
around, mail it back etc. so your total cost is about the same as the
BriteNav - upgrading hte screens is a labor intensive job which
explains the cost of the upgrade.

With BriteNav you can load in whatever program you like to use.
(LK8000, XCSoar etc)

If you are not already a Seeyou user and only want to use Seeyou I
would suggest you support the Naviter guys -

If you want choice in your software, consider BriteNav - this was why
I liked it enough to make it available to folks..

You can still support Naviter with their SeeYou Mobile software in
either case.

Hope this helps - The value proposition for Britenav hasnt changed -
and Naviter have improved their Oudie with the same technology - an
embarrassment of options....

Peter








On Mar 2, 10:59*am, Sean Fidler wrote:
200 E + VAT + round trip shipping to Europe = $270 USD + $45 + $65 =
$380 USD and 4-6 weeks? *Sound about right?

Innitially that seems rather expensive to me. *The ones upgrading have
already spend $600 and will have nearly $1000 invested in the product
after the upgrade is completed. *$1000.

Is the upgrade just the screen? *Or are their other enhancements such
as processor, battery? *How about an IGC approved logger? *Maybe an
miniatureized espresso machine? *:-)

I thank you for improving your product but the price of the upgrade is
approaching that of an iPad 2 (http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/
shop_ipad/family/ipad)

The price of a new Sunlight readable Oudie is set at $600. *Expensive
as the hardware, minus the screen upgrade, is likely very outdated.
In my opinion this upgrade price is so high that it is not worth it
for current owners.

I would like to offer my Oudie for sale at $400 USD. *Included are all
the mounts, cases and charges (wall and car). *I used it last season
in contests such as Uvalde, which was lots of sunny blue days, and it
worked fine! *Contact me at if you are interested.
Thx.

Sean

On Mar 2, 9:28*am, Richard wrote:







On Mar 2, 4:25*am, Andrej Kolar wrote:

Hey group!

We are very excited to announce that a Sunlight readable Oudie will
become available shortly (mid April) and maybe even more significantly
that we went into considerable trouble and will be be able to upgrade
your old Oudie too!

Full news announcement is hehttp://www.naviter.si/content/view/148/1/lang,en/

We will be happy to discuss it here on r.a.s. as well.

Cheers,
Andrej Kolar
--
glider pilots usehttp://www.Naviter.com/

The Sunlight readable Oudie *is avialable from Craggy Aero LLC *the
leader in Sunlight Readable Technology with the Ultimate Le.

See for details:

http://www.craggyaero.com/oudie.htm

Many think that the sunlight readability of a display is primiarily
due to the brightness. *Brightness is a factor in some displays but
the overriding factor is contrast ratio.

Contrast ratio is important in high and full sunlight applications.
Contrast ratio of a display is defined as the luminance (brightness)
ratio between a brighter state and a darker state. *The color LCDs
“white” state and “black” state are used to calculate the contrast
ratio.
*Contrast ratio = CR = luminance of the “white” /luminance of the
“black”.
*If white and black are equally bright, then CR = 1 and the display is
not readable. * High contrast ratios makes the view in direct sunlight
less dependent on the backlight intensity.

Richardwww.craggyaero.

On Mar 2, 4:25*am, Andrej Kolar wrote:

Hey group!

We are very excited to announce that a Sunlight readable Oudie will
become available shortly (mid April) and maybe even more significantly
that we went into considerable trouble and will be be able to upgrade
your old Oudie too!


That's really excellent news. Now y'all don't have to keep your
Wedgies where the sun don't shine.

T8

200 E + VAT + round trip shipping to Europe = $270 USD + $45 + $65 = $380 USD and 4-6 weeks? Sound about right?

Innitially that seems rather expensive to me. The ones upgrading have already spend $600 and will have nearly $1000 invested in the product after the upgrade is completed. $1000.

Is the upgrade just the screen? Or are their other enhancements such as processor, battery? How about an IGC approved logger? Maybe an miniatureized espresso machine? :-)

I thank you for improving your product but the price of the upgrade is approaching that of an iPad 2 (http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...ad/family/ipad)

The price of a new Sunlight readable Oudie is set at $600. Expensive as the hardware, minus the screen upgrade, is likely very outdated. In my opinion this upgrade price is so high that it is not worth it for current owners..

I would like to offer my Oudie for sale at $400 USD. Included are all the mounts, cases and charges (wall and car). I used it last season in contests such as Uvalde, which was lots of sunny blue days, and it worked fine! Contact me at if you are interested. Thx.

Sean

On Friday, March 2, 2012 7:25:32 AM UTC-5, Andrej Kolar wrote:
Hey group!

We are very excited to announce that a Sunlight readable Oudie will
become available shortly (mid April) and maybe even more significantly
that we went into considerable trouble and will be be able to upgrade
your old Oudie too!

Full news announcement is he
http://www.naviter.si/content/view/148/1/lang,en/

We will be happy to discuss it here on r.a.s. as well.

Cheers,
Andrej Kolar
--
glider pilots use
http://www.Naviter.com/

Originally Posted by Sean Fidler

200 E + VAT + round trip shipping to Europe = $270 USD + $45 + $65 = $380 USD and 4-6 weeks? Sound about right?

Innitially that seems rather expensive to me. The ones upgrading have already spend $600 and will have nearly $1000 invested in the product after the upgrade is completed. $1000.

Is the upgrade just the screen? Or are their other enhancements such as processor, battery? How about an IGC approved logger? Maybe an miniatureized espresso machine? :-)

I thank you for improving your product but the price of the upgrade is approaching that of an iPad 2 (http://store.apple.com/us/browse/hom...ad/family/ipad)

The price of a new Sunlight readable Oudie is set at $600. Expensive as the hardware, minus the screen upgrade, is likely very outdated. In my opinion this upgrade price is so high that it is not worth it for current owners..

I would like to offer my Oudie for sale at $400 USD. Included are all the mounts, cases and charges (wall and car). I used it last season in contests such as Uvalde, which was lots of sunny blue days, and it worked fine! Contact me at if you are interested. Thx.

Sean

On Friday, March 2, 2012 7:25:32 AM UTC-5, Andrej Kolar wrote:
Hey group!

We are very excited to announce that a Sunlight readable Oudie will
become available shortly (mid April) and maybe even more significantly
that we went into considerable trouble and will be be able to upgrade
your old Oudie too!

Full news announcement is he
http://www.naviter.si/content/view/148/1/lang,en/

We will be happy to discuss it here on r.a.s. as well.

Cheers,
Andrej Kolar
--
glider pilots use
http://www.Naviter.com/

Opps, your right... got happy and posted to quick. Missed the part about 'I'm excited, gimmy $240 & the Oudie please, and your probs are over....

For Sale: Oudie $399.99 cents, that should fix it

Some of the folks got some of the things wrong. Let's get them right he

1. There is no VAT for US customers or anyone outside EU, just us Europeans.. And then there's ways for those who are incorporated not to pay it. The end user pays. That's how the system works here. It's not all bad. Please talk to your local reseller about your end price. It will be in the 200-250 range more than anything.

2. The shipping will be your local shipping cost to the nearest dealer. Unless you decide to ship it express accross the ocean. Not something that we will recommending

3. We will actually upgrade your device and send it back to you - upgraded. All of your files and settings will remain intact.

4. Peter and Paolo complain about the price but make a few good points along the way. We actually have a worldwide network of dealers. There must be one in your country or else we are interested in having one. But dealers are not freeware, they actually work to make things happen. They take a fair share of the upgrade and all other prices. And their reward is well deserved.. When you pay for an upgrade or whatever you are sure that the person who sold you that actually cares about what you bought and will help you all the way as you use the product.

I guess that's the essential difference between freeware and shareware. People sometimes forget that being able to choose is a good thing. Believe me - I grew up in a country where there was very little choice in anything. What we have now is much better. But by no means cheaper.

Cheers,
Andrej Kolar
--
glider pilots use
http://www.naviter.com

On Saturday, March 3, 2012 1:18:58 AM UTC+1, POPS wrote:
'Andrej Kolar[_4_ Wrote:
;810745']Hey group!

We are very excited to announce that a Sunlight readable Oudie will
become available shortly (mid April) and maybe even more significantly
that we went into considerable trouble and will be be able to upgrade
your old Oudie too!

Full news announcement is he
http://www.naviter.si/content/view/148/1/lang,en/

We will be happy to discuss it here on r.a.s. as well.

Cheers,
Andrej Kolar



glider pilots use
http://www.Naviter.com/


Wow! That was close! Just about one step away from getting rid of my
Oudie because of not being able to see it in the real world. I hope
sunlight readable/upgradeable really means just that. Love that
thing....otherwise.
--




--
POPS



On Saturday, March 3, 2012 1:18:58 AM UTC+1, POPS wrote:
'Andrej Kolar[_4_ Wrote:
;810745']Hey group!

We are very excited to announce that a Sunlight readable Oudie will
become available shortly (mid April) and maybe even more significantly
that we went into considerable trouble and will be be able to upgrade
your old Oudie too!

Full news announcement is he
http://www.naviter.si/content/view/148/1/lang,en/

We will be happy to discuss it here on r.a.s. as well.

Cheers,
Andrej Kolar



glider pilots use
http://www.Naviter.com/


Wow! That was close! Just about one step away from getting rid of my
Oudie because of not being able to see it in the real world. I hope
sunlight readable/upgradeable really means just that. Love that
thing....otherwise.
--




--
POPS