Tips for gluing new foam into wing dolly

The foam inside my wing dolly has completely worn out and needs
replacement. I have the replacement foam and have removed all the old
foam and contact cement. The trick will be getting the new felt glued
into position. With contact cement, as soon as the two parts touch,
they are bonded.

Anyone have any pointers or suggestions as to how to best go about
getting the new foam glued into the dolly properly without making a
total mess of the thing?

Thanks for the help!

WD

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:29:10 PM UTC-5, Whiskey Delta wrote:
The foam inside my wing dolly has completely worn out and needs
replacement. I have the replacement foam and have removed all the old
foam and contact cement. The trick will be getting the new felt glued
into position. With contact cement, as soon as the two parts touch,
they are bonded.

Anyone have any pointers or suggestions as to how to best go about
getting the new foam glued into the dolly properly without making a
total mess of the thing?

Thanks for the help!

WD

use a plenty wide and long piece. start at one end and work slowly towards the other to keep any wrinkles from forming. trim the excess.

You mention both foam and felt. You also mention a wing dolly which
was Udo's trade name for his rigging tool that had felt glued to the
inside of his fiberglass saddle much as my Wing Rigger does. Assuming
that's what you are talking about, I can answer your question on how
to glue the felt in place. Could you first confirm that I would be
answering the right question though as I am confused about the mention
of foam -- I don't think there is foam on a Udo wing dolly.

On Apr 10, 3:48*pm, Steve Koerner wrote:
You mention both foam and felt. *You also mention a wing dolly which
was Udo's trade name for his rigging tool that had felt glued to the
inside of his fiberglass saddle much as my Wing Rigger does. *Assuming
that's what you are talking about, I can answer your question on how
to glue the felt in place. * Could you first confirm that I would be
answering the right question though as I am confused about the mention
of foam -- I don't think there is foam on a Udo wing dolly.

My apologies. I am referring to the wing dolly used for tow out; the
wing cuff with the bicycle wheel attached. It is actually foam, not
felt.

Thanks,

WD

My apologies. *I am referring to the wing dolly used for tow out; the
wing cuff with the bicycle wheel attached. It is actually foam, not
felt.

Thanks,

WD

OK, we usually call that item a 'wing wheel', but no big deal. I
don't have advise for gluing foam.

Anyway, its too bad that the maker's of wing wheels aren't smart
enough to use a material like wool felt that does not deteriorate
after a few years of service like foam does. I recently noticed that
a competitor in the wing assembly business also uses foam for his
saddle lining -- too bad for his customers I guess.

Steve Koerner
www.wingrigger.com

On Apr 10, 4:45*pm, Steve Koerner wrote:
My apologies. *I am referring to the wing dolly used for tow out; the
wing cuff with the bicycle wheel attached. It is actually foam, not
felt.

Thanks,

WD

OK, we usually call that item a 'wing wheel', but no big deal. *I
don't have advise for gluing foam.

Anyway, its too bad that the maker's of wing wheels aren't smart
enough to use a material like wool felt that does not deteriorate
after a few years of service like foam does. *I recently noticed that
a competitor in the wing assembly business also uses foam for his
saddle lining -- too bad for his customers I guess.

Steve Koernerwww.wingrigger.com

What advantage/disadvantage (other than durability as you mentioned
above) would felt have vs foam for the wing wheel? Does it retain
moisture longer than foam? How would you go about gluing the felt in
place? I am not opposed to putting in felt if that is preferable.

WD

What advantage/disadvantage (other than durability as you mentioned
above) would felt have vs foam for the wing wheel? *Does it retain
moisture longer than foam? How would you go about gluing the felt in
place? *I am not opposed to putting in felt if that is preferable.

Foam has a higher coeficient of friction than felt. Thus the wing
wheel is less likely to move around or slide off than with felt.

As for gluing, I would suggest gluing a small area first to set the
position, then glue another small area, then another...

On Apr 10, 2:30*pm, Whiskey Delta wrote:
On Apr 10, 4:45*pm, Steve Koerner wrote:









My apologies. *I am referring to the wing dolly used for tow out; the
wing cuff with the bicycle wheel attached. It is actually foam, not
felt.

Thanks,

WD

OK, we usually call that item a 'wing wheel', but no big deal. *I
don't have advise for gluing foam.

Anyway, its too bad that the maker's of wing wheels aren't smart
enough to use a material like wool felt that does not deteriorate
after a few years of service like foam does. *I recently noticed that
a competitor in the wing assembly business also uses foam for his
saddle lining -- too bad for his customers I guess.

Steve Koernerwww.wingrigger.com

What advantage/disadvantage (other than durability as you mentioned
above) would felt have vs foam for the wing wheel? *Does it retain
moisture longer than foam? How would you go about gluing the felt in
place? *I am not opposed to putting in felt if that is preferable.

WD

My fuselage dolly used to have foam and moisture retention caused
brown orange peel on the gel coat. It now has felt so the moisture
issue should be resolved but the fuselage sure slips around more in
the dolly. I doubt you'll have moisture problems with a wing wheel
unless you leave it on the wing for a while. For what it's worth, my
wing wheel has indoor/outdoor carpeting on it. For gluing, Guy's
advice sounds good. Use a cheap throw away brush for the contact
cement. You can get a box of 36 1" brushes at Harbor Freight for
$7.99! Box of 36 2" brushes is $10.99.

Steve

Originally Posted by Steve Koerner

You mention both foam and felt. You also mention a wing dolly which
was Udo's trade name for his rigging tool that had felt glued to the
inside of his fiberglass saddle much as my Wing Rigger does. Assuming
that's what you are talking about, I can answer your question on how
to glue the felt in place. Could you first confirm that I would be
answering the right question though as I am confused about the mention
of foam -- I don't think there is foam on a Udo wing dolly.

I have used outdoor carpet adhesive with good results on thick felt, however, F1 hard white felt is expensive and so makes mistakes pricey. the carpet adhesive is not a contact style glue and lets you do a little position adjustment. Of course a compatibility test is in order.

Good Luck.
Scott W.

On Apr 10, 7:47*pm, shkdriver
wrote:
Steve Koerner;813131 Wrote:

You mention both foam and felt. *You also mention a wing dolly which
was Udo's trade name for his rigging tool that had felt glued to the
inside of his fiberglass saddle much as my Wing Rigger does. *Assuming
that's what you are talking about, I can answer your question on how
to glue the felt in place. * Could you first confirm that I would be
answering the right question though as I am confused about the mention
of foam -- I don't think there is foam on a Udo wing dolly.

I have used outdoor carpet adhesive with good results on thick felt,
however, F1 hard white felt is expensive and so makes mistakes pricey.
the carpet adhesive is not a contact style glue and lets you do a little
position adjustment. Of course a compatibility test is in order.

Good Luck.
Scott W.

--
shkdriver

If you have a local industrial supplier of gasket material, "boiler
felt" or "gasket felt" is a very cheap option. I picked up more than
enough 1/4" grey felt for a trailer and rigging gadgets from the
shop's scrap barrel for about $5. The new stuff was on 10' wide rolls
like carpet.

Carpet glue, carpet tape (2-sided adhesive) or silicone caulking work
fine as glue. I chose tape just because it is less messy and allows
easier replacement in the future.

That said, the McMaster Carr felt with peel-n-stick adhesive looks to
be the best stuff if cost is no object but I wish it were available in
red to match Cobra trailers.