Drunk pilot news video & ATC audio

Hope ATC never has to describe me as "orbiting like an idiot"!

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/vid...pilottape.html

"Doug FM" wrote in message
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Hope ATC never has to describe me as "orbiting like an idiot"!

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/news/vid...pilottape.html


With all the undeserved bad rep GA is getting recently (like the CBS
report)... that's what we need: some stupid DANGEROUS stunt.

I honestly hope this guy pays for it. At the very least I hope they'll never
let him in a plane again.

--
Marco Rispoli - NJ, USA
I SOLOed!! You can read my flight training diary at
http://www.tranceweb.net

What makes you people think someone has to have a pilot's certificate
to fly an airplane?

On Tue, 03 Feb 2004 21:58:40 GMT, EDR wrote:


What makes you people think someone has to have a pilot's certificate
to fly an airplane?

But this someone did, in fact a commercial. If I found the right one
(and I think it is), he has (copied from FAA search):

DOI : 03/23/2001
Certificate: COMMERCIAL PILOT

Rating(s):

COMMERCIAL PILOT
ROTORCRAFT-HELICOPTER
INSTRUMENT HELICOPTER
PRIVATE PRIVILEGES
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND

You can read about it, in order, he (and here and here)

http://www.avweb.com/newswire/10_04a.../186506-1.html
http://www.avweb.com/newswire/10_05a.../186583-1.html
http://www.avweb.com/newswire/10_06a.../186637-1.html

Ricky

"EDR" wrote in message
...

What makes you people think someone has to have a pilot's certificate
to fly an airplane?

You make a good point but you have to consider that if they take his license
away:

1 - all the money he invested in training will be gone to nothing
2 - he can only fly in his dreams and flight simulator

Can he fly a plane without a license? He can steal one (I don't think you
can own a plane if you don't have at least a valid student license and you
definetly can't rent one ... people with more knowledge in the FARs can
elaborate here).

But now you are not talking about breaking into Bravo airspace anymore
(which is bad enough). You are talking about a criminal act (stealing). That
goes beyond the scope of this subject ... since the guy may be an idiot but
is probably not a criminal in the traditional sense (even if you could argue
that being an idiot IS a crime).

One more thing: this is the Northeast. I have the impression that things are
a bit more controlled around here. There's radar coverage everywhere and
airports are crowded and more under control.

If you are thinking about other areas of the country that are more laid back
and isolated then maybe he can still fly and even keep on going his
commercial business (unlikely in my opinion) illegally and not get caught
.... perhaps. I have never really been out of the Northeast ... so I
wouldn't know much about this.

--
Marco Rispoli - NJ, USA
I SOLOed!! You can read my flight training diary at
http://www.tranceweb.net

"Marco Rispoli" wrote

(I don't think you can own a plane if you don't have at least a valid
student license
--
Marco Rispoli - NJ, USA

WRONGAMOONDO !!!!!!!
--
Jim in NC


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"Marco Rispoli" wrote
(I don't think you can own a plane if you don't have at least a valid
student license

In article , Morgans wrote:
WRONGAMOONDO !!!!!!!

Lots of non-pilots buy airplanes and hire others to fly them.

So, a person can buy an airplane without a pilot's license, AND fly
that airplane without a pilot's license.

I knew an old timer who had lost his medical. He owned a private
airport. He told his wife, "It's my airplane, it's my airport, I'll fly
if I want to!"

"EDR" wrote in message
...

"Marco Rispoli" wrote
(I don't think you can own a plane if you don't have at least a valid
student license

In article , Morgans
wrote:
WRONGAMOONDO !!!!!!!

Lots of non-pilots buy airplanes and hire others to fly them.

So, a person can buy an airplane without a pilot's license, AND fly
that airplane without a pilot's license.

I knew an old timer who had lost his medical. He owned a private
airport. He told his wife, "It's my airplane, it's my airport, I'll fly
if I want to!"

I stand corrected.

--
Marco Rispoli - NJ, USA
I SOLOed!! You can read my flight training diary at
http://www.tranceweb.net

"Marco Rispoli" wrote:
Can he fly a plane without a license? He can steal one (I don't think you
can own a plane if you don't have at least a valid student license and you
definetly can't rent one ... people with more knowledge in the FARs can
elaborate here).

There is nothing that says you can't own an airplane if you don't have a
pilot's license.

One more thing: this is the Northeast. I have the impression that things are
a bit more controlled around here. There's radar coverage everywhere and
airports are crowded and more under control.

Well, the controlled airports are under control, but the uncontrolled
ones aren't. There are plenty of uncontrolled airports in the
northeast. Still, to the best of my knowledge, the controllers at NY
Tracon can't see if I've got a piece of paper in my wallet or not.

Certainly, if you rent from an FBO or club, somebody's going to want to
see your license, medical, BFR endorsements, etc. But if you bought
your own plane, the odds are you could go a lifetime of flying without
anybody ever asking to see any paperwork. I'm sure there are plenty of
people flying around without licenses, on expired medicals, etc.

In article , Roy Smith
wrote:

Certainly, if you rent from an FBO or club, somebody's going to want to
see your license, medical, BFR endorsements, etc. But if you bought
your own plane, the odds are you could go a lifetime of flying without
anybody ever asking to see any paperwork. I'm sure there are plenty of
people flying around without licenses, on expired medicals, etc.

Years ago, when I was a wee lad, my father would take me flying.
When he died a few years ago, I asked my mother if I could have his
pilot's certificate. She couldn't find one and I don't think he ever
had one.

He took flying lessons when he was in high school, then went into WW2.
While in Thailand, one evening he "borrowed" a British L-5 on floats.
It was a hour drive from the base into Bankok, or 15 minutes by air. He
and a buddy got in the airplane and took off and landed in a canal in
Bankok. They got the parts they needed, got back in the L-5 and headed
for home. It was dusk, with sufficient visibility to see. He cut the
power and glided in to land in the canal by the base. When the floats
touched the side of the canal, they egressed back to their quarters.
The Brits complained, my dad's CO said he couldn't prove it was my
father, but advised him not to do it again.

When I was young, my father would rent planes all the time with just a
checkout. If people know you, you can still do the same thing now.