Veering left after touchdown

OK so 4 or so flight hours after attaining my PPL, I find a problem i don't
recall experiencing during flight training at all. Hoping for some insight
or maybe i'll consider a few recurrent hours with my CFI.

Anyway basically the problem is that I land straight (or so I think) and
almost immediately after touchdown I start to veer to the left
(disconcerting for passengers), now on LUK's 150ft wide runway no problem I
get it back on centerline but i'm concerned about thi.s happening on a 75ft
or narrower runway.

"Karl Treier" wrote in message news:q8KDc.9690

Anyway basically the problem is that I land straight (or so I think) and

same airplane or different airplanes?

unconscious pressure on left rudder pedal?

take careful note of *exactly* what you're doing.

"Karl Treier" wrote in message
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OK so 4 or so flight hours after attaining my PPL, I find a problem i
don't
recall experiencing during flight training at all. Hoping for some
insight
or maybe i'll consider a few recurrent hours with my CFI.

Anyway basically the problem is that I land straight (or so I think) and
almost immediately after touchdown I start to veer to the left
(disconcerting for passengers), now on LUK's 150ft wide runway no problem
I
get it back on centerline but i'm concerned about thi.s happening on a
75ft
or narrower runway.

Hmmm, how about adding an 'H' to your GUMPS pre-landing checklist. It's
for making sure your heels are on the floor.

Hmmm, how about adding an 'H' to your GUMPS pre-landing checklist. It's
for making sure your heels are on the floor.

great. So we have
TIT = tune - identify - twist
HUMP

what's next? grin

Gerald

"Gerald Sylvester" wrote in message
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Hmmm, how about adding an 'H' to your GUMPS pre-landing checklist.
It's
for making sure your heels are on the floor.

great. So we have
TIT = tune - identify - twist
HUMP


ROTFLMAO!!! Good one!

"Karl Treier" wrote in message
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OK so 4 or so flight hours after attaining my PPL, I find a problem i
don't
recall experiencing during flight training at all. Hoping for some
insight
or maybe i'll consider a few recurrent hours with my CFI.

Anyway basically the problem is that I land straight (or so I think) and
almost immediately after touchdown I start to veer to the left
(disconcerting for passengers), now on LUK's 150ft wide runway no problem
I
get it back on centerline but i'm concerned about thi.s happening on a
75ft
or narrower runway.

Any crosswind?

--Gary

as my CFI told me over and over again -
"GET ON THE BALL!"
in reference to the turn coordinator

I ran into the same problem.

now in a right rudder aircraft, when you take all the power out before
touchdown, the prop is still rotating and you still have some
p-factor, torque, etc.

During landing it is Very important to keep that ball centered. When
the CFI is not yelling at you every time the ball gets too close to
the line does not mean that it is any less important.

1. stalling above the runway is scarey enough without the added
troubes caused by being uncoordinated

2. your wheels hate being side loaded and will one day rebel.

you say "Almost Immediatly" which tells me that you are touching down
uncoordinated.

to work on this habit, and this worked for me.....

Go up to 7500 feet and practice stalls. lots and lots of stalls, Power
on and power off. keeping special watch on that turn coordinator.
soon, you will notice that when you are landing, paying attention to
the things other then the Turn Coordinator, if you glance at it, it
will be centered 100% of the time without you even thinking about it.



On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:04:19 -0400, "Karl Treier"
spoketh unto us:

OK so 4 or so flight hours after attaining my PPL, I find a problem i don't
recall experiencing during flight training at all. Hoping for some insight
or maybe i'll consider a few recurrent hours with my CFI.

Anyway basically the problem is that I land straight (or so I think) and
almost immediately after touchdown I start to veer to the left
(disconcerting for passengers), now on LUK's 150ft wide runway no problem I
get it back on centerline but i'm concerned about thi.s happening on a 75ft
or narrower runway.



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"Patrick w. Sencenich" wrote in message
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During landing it is Very important to keep that ball centered. When
the CFI is not yelling at you every time the ball gets too close to
the line does not mean that it is any less important.

1. stalling above the runway is scarey enough without the added
troubes caused by being uncoordinated

2. your wheels hate being side loaded and will one day rebel.

If there's a crosswind, then being uncoordinated is what *prevents* a side
load. Ignore the inclinometer; just use the ailerons to maintain your
position over the centerline, and the rudder to keep the plane pointing
straight down the runway. Without a crosswind, the result will be
coordinated flight; with a crosswind, the result will be properly
uncoordinated flight (a side slip).

--Gary

During landing it is Very important to keep that ball centered.

My God, no! The ball is the LAST thing you should be looking at
during a landing operation. Look outside!

stalling above the runway is scarey enough without the added troubes
caused by being uncoordinated

Stalling a few feet above the runway is no big deal.

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:34:15 GMT, Greg Esres
spoketh unto us:

During landing it is Very important to keep that ball centered.

My God, no! The ball is the LAST thing you should be looking at
during a landing operation. Look outside!

stalling above the runway is scarey enough without the added troubes
caused by being uncoordinated

Stalling a few feet above the runway is no big deal.


Who said anything about looking at the ball? if you are flying
coordinated, then the ball is centered, isn't it?

did you get as far as reading my statement:

"Go up to 7500 feet and practice stalls. lots and lots of stalls,
Power
on and power off. keeping special watch on that turn coordinator.
soon, you will notice that when you are landing, paying attention to
the things other then the Turn Coordinator, if you glance at it, it
will be centered 100% of the time without you even thinking about it."

Practice up high. that way, down low, you just do.

I say Practice Stalls because that forces you to make sure you are
coordinated.

as far as crosswind, i did not see that he said anything special about
crosswinds in the original post.
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"I am NOT 30... i am 24.95 plus shipping and handling."