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In the July 2004 issue of Sport Aviation, there was an article published on the
installation of ELTs. I have taken issue with the article with Tom Poberezny and Scott Spangler, and before I go off half-cocked (how unusual for me) I'd like some confirmation from this group. Understand that I may quote you directly if you respond, so if you don't want your name mentioned, just say so. Here's the deal: My contention is that EAA should have an editorial board that reviews technical articles like this for theoretical as well as practical errors of fact or judgement. Every ethical magazine in the world has a competent review team that looks at an author's work and at LEAST asks the questions as to where the data came from. Now I'm not looking to pick the nits. They say that the CORPASS-SARSAT satellites are flying at 528 miles. If the actual altitude happens to be 527.4, that's a nit. On the other hand, in the next paragraph (page 108, column 2, first paragraph) they say that the analog ELTs operate on 121.5 MHz. and the digital ELTs operate on 406 MHz.. There are two errors of fact he The VHF ELTs operate on 12.15 MHz. AND 243.0 Mhz. The UHF 406 MHz. ELT is NOT totally digital technology. Now here's the challenge... Find errors of technical fact AND practical installation (so far I've found ten of them) and post them here (please do not send to me by private email). I'll collate them and send them off to TomP. Perhaps we can get the folks back in Oshkosh to listen and publish something that resembles the truth. And yes, in case of an unfortunate incident, it CAN make the difference between YOUR life and death. Jim Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup) VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor http://www.rst-engr.com |
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Jim Weir wrote:
In the July 2004 issue of Sport Aviation, there was an article published on the installation of ELTs. I have taken issue with the article with Tom Poberezny and Scott Spangler, and before I go off half-cocked (how unusual for me) I'd like some confirmation from this group. Understand that I may quote you directly if you respond, so if you don't want your name mentioned, just say so. Here's the deal: My contention is that EAA should have an editorial board that reviews technical articles like this for theoretical as well as practical errors of fact or judgement. Every ethical magazine in the world has a competent review team that looks at an author's work and at LEAST asks the questions as to where the data came from. Now I'm not looking to pick the nits. They say that the CORPASS-SARSAT satellites are flying at 528 miles. If the actual altitude happens to be 527.4, that's a nit. On the other hand, in the next paragraph (page 108, column 2, first paragraph) they say that the analog ELTs operate on 121.5 MHz. and the digital ELTs operate on 406 MHz.. There are two errors of fact he The VHF ELTs operate on 12.15 MHz. AND 243.0 Mhz. The UHF 406 MHz. ELT is NOT totally digital technology. Now here's the challenge... Find errors of technical fact AND practical installation (so far I've found ten of them) and post them here (please do not send to me by private email). I'll collate them and send them off to TomP. Perhaps we can get the folks back in Oshkosh to listen and publish something that resembles the truth. And yes, in case of an unfortunate incident, it CAN make the difference between YOUR life and death. Jim Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup) VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor http://www.rst-engr.com Do Typo's count ? You just stated VHF 12.15 Mhz it should be 121.5 mhz and 243 mhz. If your getting ready to slam them you might well get someone to proof read your own posts ;-) John |
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![]() "Jim Weir" wrote in message ... In the July 2004 issue of Sport Aviation, there was an article published on the installation of ELTs. I have taken issue with the article with Tom Poberezny and Scott Spangler, and before I go off half-cocked (how unusual for me) I'd like some confirmation from this group. Understand that I may quote you directly if you respond, so if you don't want your name mentioned, just say so. Yeah, when reading in the mag I try to overlook the errors in diction, grammar, and spelling. Some of them are glaring. You would think that after so many years of publication, _Sport Aviation_ would become serious and get a handle on it. What's a "Kerney" swager? I thought it was a "Kearney." At more than five grand the damn thing costs so much you would think it knew how to spell itself, even in an amateur publication like _Sport Aviation._ As for technical data, well, you had better verify that for yourself by relying on a more scholarly publication. |
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![]() "Jim Weir" wrote in message ... In the July 2004 issue of Sport Aviation, there was an article published on the installation of ELTs. I have taken issue with the article with Tom Poberezny and Scott Spangler, and before I go off half-cocked (how unusual for me) I'd like some confirmation from this group. Understand that I may quote you directly if you respond, so if you don't want your name mentioned, just say so. Here's the deal: My contention is that EAA should have an editorial board that reviews technical articles like this for theoretical as well as practical errors of fact or judgement. Every ethical magazine in the world has a competent review team that looks at an author's work and at LEAST asks the questions as to where the data came from. Now I'm not looking to pick the nits. They say that the CORPASS-SARSAT satellites are flying at 528 miles. If the actual altitude happens to be 527.4, that's a nit. On the other hand, in the next paragraph (page 108, column 2, first paragraph) they say that the analog ELTs operate on 121.5 MHz. and the digital ELTs operate on 406 MHz.. There are two errors of fact he The VHF ELTs operate on 12.15 MHz. AND 243.0 Mhz. The UHF 406 MHz. ELT is NOT totally digital technology. Hi Jim, As a writer, I agree that the final responsibility is on the magazine's editor's shoulders for accuracy. Bu the fault lies with the writer. In this case the writer(s) appear to be insiders. Huge mags, like National Geographic and others, have dozens of people who do nothing but 'fact checking,' name spelling, placement of decimal points (like the one you blooped in your message above. Smaller magazines, like Sport Aviation and Flying don't do as good a job because of the staff costs. As an entrepreneur, you know the largest costs in any business are labor+overhead and overhead (G&A) exceeds labor by multiple factors. That doesn't excuse allowing errors to reach print, but it does explain why editors rely more and more on us writers to get it right. Go for it, Jim, but I don't think you will make much headway. I'll bet the magazine just won't increase the staffing to include a technical review board. I'd also bet that a person with the CVs for doing the review job won't work for the pitiful wages the mag would pay. It is a universal problem in the industry. Now for a fine point in your discussion of frequencies. The guard frequency 243.0 Mhz is within the military band 225.0 to 399.9. For as long as I can remember, and that goes back at least to the fifties as an electronics tech in the USMC, the military band has been considered UHF despite the delineation of 30 to 300 attached to the definition of VHF. I won't give you points for that one. As to the rest.... I don't subscribe to the magazine. Regards, Casey |
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![]() - -Hi Jim, - - As a writer, I agree that the final responsibility is on the magazine's -editor's shoulders for accuracy. Bu the fault lies with the writer. In this -case the writer(s) appear to be insiders. Yes, as a writer I agree. But to make as many errors of fact as were made in this article, the writer must shoulder some responsibility. Just as an example, look at the picture on page 108, and remember that this is an article about the proper INSTALLATION of an ELT. See the pretty antenna coax draped across the sharp edge of the aluminum former? With no cable ties anywhere? Ain't THAT a proper way to show installation. And the admonition to use an Adel clamp on the tip of the antenna to keep it from whipping about? Can you say "DETUNE" from the metal in the clamp? - Huge mags, like National Geographic and others, have dozens of people -who do nothing but 'fact checking,' name spelling, placement of decimal -points (like the one you blooped in your message above. And the failure to close (parentheses)? {;-) Smaller magazines, -like Sport Aviation and Flying don't do as good a job because of the staff -costs. As an entrepreneur, you know the largest costs in any business are -labor+overhead and overhead (G&A) exceeds labor by multiple factors. - That doesn't excuse allowing errors to reach print, but it does explain -why editors rely more and more on us writers to get it right. Go for it, -Jim, but I don't think you will make much headway. I'll bet the magazine -just won't increase the staffing to include a technical review board. Most of us would gladly volunteer to keep crap like this from making its way into print. I'd -also bet that a person with the CVs for doing the review job won't work for -the pitiful wages the mag would pay. It is a universal problem in the -industry. - Now for a fine point in your discussion of frequencies. The guard -frequency 243.0 Mhz is within the military band 225.0 to 399.9. For as long -as I can remember, and that goes back at least to the fifties as an -electronics tech in the USMC, the military band has been considered UHF -despite the delineation of 30 to 300 attached to the definition of VHF. I -won't give you points for that one. And I agree with you. I've called it the Mil UHF band for years. However, this is just another point that you've found without even having the magazine in your hands. The POINT was that they didn't mention 243.0, just 121.5. Anybody with a lick of avionics sense understands what a crystal bitch it is to design antennas that will radiate efficiently on both the fundamental and second harmonic. And the final kicker? The admonition to "replace the battery if there are any signs of corrosion". Me? I was taught to clean up the corrosion and THEN replace the battery. Sigh. Jim Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup) VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor http://www.rst-engr.com |
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![]() "Jim Weir" wrote in message ... Yes, as a writer I agree. But to make as many errors of fact as were made in this article, the writer must shoulder some responsibility. Just as an example, look at the picture on page 108, and remember that this is an article about the proper INSTALLATION of an ELT. See the pretty antenna coax draped across the sharp edge of the aluminum former? With no cable ties anywhere? Ain't THAT a proper way to show installation. -but 'fact checking,' name spelling, placement of decimal -points (like the one you blooped in your message above. And the failure to close (parentheses)? {;-) Got me! -Jim, but I don't think you will make much headway. I'll bet the magazine -just won't increase the staffing to include a technical review board. Most of us would gladly volunteer to keep crap like this from making its way into print. Give it try, all you've got to lose is your time. I'm presuming you're going to make that suggestion in the letter you write. When I was digging for information about the Sport license, I emailed a query to an EAA 'expert.' Shortly after, one of the editors sent me a box of magazines, samples from all the different publications. It came with a nice note saying they'd like the first look at whatever I wrote. What surprised me was the number of different titles they put out. At the time I think there were seven or so. I'm not a homebuilder nor a member of EAA and can't find much in any of their pubs to relate to -- so I've never subscribed. If I ever get nearby your neck of the woods, I'll call first and see if we can get together for lunch. Good luck, Casey |
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Jim Weir wrote in
: Yes, as a writer I agree. But to make as many errors of fact as were made in this article, the writer must shoulder some responsibility. Smaller magazines, -like Sport Aviation and Flying don't do as good a job because of the staff -costs. All I can suggest is you read a couple of issues of the Piper Cherokee Owners Magazine (sorry, exact name escapes me at the moment). By the time you are finished, anything EAA can put out will look like the New Yorker! G jmk |
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The problem crops up in other hobby magazines as well. From what I'm
told, many of the woodworking mags (such as you can find at Lowe's Aviation Supply) use reader-written articles that often contain factual errors or safety problems. |
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Jim Weir wrote:
And yes, in case of an unfortunate incident, it CAN make the difference between YOUR life and death. Jim I'd just be happy if they required the authors to explain WHY such-n-such must be done in a particular way. It just grinds my last nerve to read what I think will be an educational article, just to find it full of commands like "You must use black grease on the schmizzle donker." The EAA claims to be an educational organization, but that ain't education. It's training. Education hasn't occured until the student know why black grease must be used on the schmizzle donker and why the schmizzle donker is needed in the first place. Just requiring explanations will eliminate 90% of what you're describing. If someone can't explain why black grease is necessary in simple terms, then most likely they are just a trained monkey repeating what they've heard. With no understanding of the underlying principles, they haven't a clue if they are applying their training correctly...if they are missing an important point, or if they are doing a lot of useless work. I was the best history, physics and chemistry student in my senior year of high school and I never lost one night of sleep 'studying'. I don't believe it was because I had more intelligence than everyone else, but I learned a simple secret. Don't memorize facts and equations...work to understand the underlying causes and forces a play. The facts and equations almost always become self evident, simple and HARD to forget. Any variation of the problem space is also a non-issue. A list of facts (like how to install an ELT) will get screwed up in your head before the teacher finishes handing out the tests. -- http://www.ernest.isa-geek.org/ "Ignorance is mankinds normal state, alleviated by information and experience." Veeduber |
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Likewise when I was going through Navy ET school I nearly aced every exam.
It made me laugh that every night before the test the whole class would be in someones room cramming for it while I would go out to the club and have 1 or 2 brews ... just enough to relax. They never did get the idea, the problem was during class they were working so hard to take down minuet notes that they really didn't pay attention to the instructor. While I would listen to him/her ask questions when confused (often) and take down the basics in notes. I have since lost all my notes but still remember the basics which are still applicable today even the the technology has totally changed. John US Navy, Naval Security Group CTM2 1973-1979 Ernest Christley wrote: Jim Weir wrote: And yes, in case of an unfortunate incident, it CAN make the difference between YOUR life and death. Jim I'd just be happy if they required the authors to explain WHY such-n-such must be done in a particular way. It just grinds my last nerve to read what I think will be an educational article, just to find it full of commands like "You must use black grease on the schmizzle donker." The EAA claims to be an educational organization, but that ain't education. It's training. Education hasn't occured until the student know why black grease must be used on the schmizzle donker and why the schmizzle donker is needed in the first place. Just requiring explanations will eliminate 90% of what you're describing. If someone can't explain why black grease is necessary in simple terms, then most likely they are just a trained monkey repeating what they've heard. With no understanding of the underlying principles, they haven't a clue if they are applying their training correctly...if they are missing an important point, or if they are doing a lot of useless work. I was the best history, physics and chemistry student in my senior year of high school and I never lost one night of sleep 'studying'. I don't believe it was because I had more intelligence than everyone else, but I learned a simple secret. Don't memorize facts and equations...work to understand the underlying causes and forces a play. The facts and equations almost always become self evident, simple and HARD to forget. Any variation of the problem space is also a non-issue. A list of facts (like how to install an ELT) will get screwed up in your head before the teacher finishes handing out the tests. |
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