Sport Pilot ever going to happen?

Only 24 days, 1 hours, 56 minutes, and 59 seconds left until Sun n Fun
I wonder if Sport Pilot will ever come out???

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"Gilan" wrote:


Only 24 days, 1 hours, 56 minutes, and 59 seconds left until Sun n Fun

The rumor is that it will be announced there.

Dennis.


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"Gilan" wrote:


Only 24 days, 1 hours, 56 minutes, and 59 seconds left until Sun n Fun

The rumor is that it will be announced there.

Dennis.


The facts are that FnAA announced it will NOT be announced there, maybe
at OshKosh this fall,,,,,,

no sprot is good sprot !
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Didn't the DOT sign off on it on December 23rd, meaning the Office of
Management and Budget (OMB) has 90 days to sign off and return it to
the FAA?

Isn't today (March 22nd) 90 days after December 23rd?

Governmental Rules, Regulations, and Procedures are required to be followed
by citizens, NOT Government Officials.



"Joepole" wrote in message
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Didn't the DOT sign off on it on December 23rd, meaning the Office of
Management and Budget (OMB) has 90 days to sign off and return it to
the FAA?

Isn't today (March 22nd) 90 days after December 23rd?

(Joepole) wrote in message . com...
Didn't the DOT sign off on it on December 23rd, meaning the Office of
Management and Budget (OMB) has 90 days to sign off and return it to
the FAA?

Isn't today (March 22nd) 90 days after December 23rd?

That's the way it was explained to me, or at least my understanding of
the explination. NPRM - comment periond - FAA aproval - then off to
DOT for 30 day review - then off to OMB for their review. If DOT or
the OMB didn't approve in the alloted time then we start all over with
another NPRM.

Could be working days not calander days? Or maybe the OMB didn't like
it and killed it with the equivilant of a "pocket veto"?

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Leon McAtee
Believe it when I see it..as long as the vision is confirmed by an
independent observer.

DOT took considerably longer than their allotted time but passed it!



Leon McAtee wrote:

(Joepole) wrote in message
. com...
Didn't the DOT sign off on it on December 23rd, meaning the Office of
Management and Budget (OMB) has 90 days to sign off and return it to
the FAA?

Isn't today (March 22nd) 90 days after December 23rd?

That's the way it was explained to me, or at least my understanding of
the explination. NPRM - comment periond - FAA aproval - then off to
DOT for 30 day review - then off to OMB for their review. If DOT or
the OMB didn't approve in the alloted time then we start all over with
another NPRM.

Could be working days not calander days? Or maybe the OMB didn't like
it and killed it with the equivilant of a "pocket veto"?

===================
Leon McAtee
Believe it when I see it..as long as the vision is confirmed by an
independent observer.

"Joepole" wrote in message
om...
Didn't the DOT sign off on it on December 23rd, meaning the Office
of
Management and Budget (OMB) has 90 days to sign off and return it to
the FAA?

Isn't today (March 22nd) 90 days after December 23rd?

I think I found the rule, just an Executive Order - #12866. OMB has
90 calendar days to complete review, but it can by mutual agreement be
extended another 30. After that and with no disputes to resolve, I
can't find anywhere in 5 USC (law governing agency rulemaking ) that
says how long an agency (FAA) has to publish the final.

Also, the criteria under which OMB reviews the rule appear to be
things which are not involved in Sport Pilot (e.g., excessive
regulation; conflict with other agency rules). So it's likely just a
matter where, in the grand scheme of things a rather minor rule, all
the parties use the full time given to tend to more important
rulemaking matters.

Fred F.

I just got a forward message, from one of the U.L. e-mail lists, hope its
bull,,,,,,, here it is,

Hi All,
It was announced at our ultralight safety seminar today by the
local FSDO that sport pilot rules is on hold. The rule was found to
have problems that need further reform after a recent review by FAA.
It will not be announced at Sun-N-Fun and possibly not at Oshkosh
this summer. Hurray, a reprieve for at least another year.

Wonder if its B.S. , anyone else attend this meeting, it was posted on
the 20th,,,
Scrappman

TaxSrv wrote:

"Joepole" wrote in message
om...

Didn't the DOT sign off on it on December 23rd, meaning the Office

of

Management and Budget (OMB) has 90 days to sign off and return it to
the FAA?

Isn't today (March 22nd) 90 days after December 23rd?


I think I found the rule, just an Executive Order - #12866. OMB has
90 calendar days to complete review, but it can by mutual agreement be
extended another 30. After that and with no disputes to resolve, I
can't find anywhere in 5 USC (law governing agency rulemaking ) that
says how long an agency (FAA) has to publish the final.

Also, the criteria under which OMB reviews the rule appear to be
things which are not involved in Sport Pilot (e.g., excessive
regulation; conflict with other agency rules). So it's likely just a
matter where, in the grand scheme of things a rather minor rule, all
the parties use the full time given to tend to more important
rulemaking matters.

Fred F.

Current online message from EAA :
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FAA TEMPORARILY RETRACTS SPORT PILOT PROPOSAL
Action Allows FAA to Answer OMB Questions


March 25, 2004 - FAA Administrator Marion Blakey ordered an
administrative move on Wednesday, March 24, that keeps the sport
pilot/light-sport aircraft rule on track for final approval this spring. She
withdrew the proposal from the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) to
answer several final questions about the rulemaking package.
That maneuver saves the rule from facing a potential significant delay
in its approval. By bringing the proposal back to FAA, Blakey can address
OMB's questions in the most expeditious manner and return it quickly for
final approval. FAA will return the rulemaking package directly to OMB
without another complete review by the Department of Transportation.

March 24 marked the end of OMB's 90-day review period. Had FAA not
retracted the rule, OMB could have rejected it, severely delaying issuance
of a final rule.

While expressing disappointment in the 11th-hour development, EAA
President Tom Poberezny commended FAA's decision and acknowledged it as the
best way for the agency to address OMB's questions and secure a final rule
as quickly as possible.

"This is a temporary timing setback," he said. "EAA continues to
champion and support the sport pilot/light-sport aircraft rule, as evidenced
by the considerable resources we've dedicated to developing programs and
services for our members, including the introduction this week of EAA Sport
Pilot & Light-Sport Aircraft magazine." Poberezny also noted an upcoming
announcement regarding a major sport pilot and instructor training program.

FAA officials confirmed to EAA that answering OMB's questions about
the proposed rule is a top priority.





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"Gilan" wrote in message
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Only 24 days, 1 hours, 56 minutes, and 59 seconds left until Sun n Fun
I wonder if Sport Pilot will ever come out???

--
You may be an Ultralighter if........
http://www.flyinggators.com/news/Bill%20Cook/Bill.htm

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Have a good day and stay out of the trees!
See ya on Sport Aircraft group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Sport_Aircraft/