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![]() Wanna see, what happens if you place two former military pilots of the French Navy in the cockpit of an Airbus A380? A vertical take-off and some acrobatic maneuvers are the result. Two pilots who previously worked for the French Navy have been working as test pilots for Airbus since a few years. This was the most amazing A380 performance I have ever seen. Very impressive to see such a big bird gliding threw the skies as if it would be a small Cessna. Of course the fuel tanks were empty because the Airbus just made a short presentation flight for the audience in France. I hope I could see such a performance again someday: http://youtu.be/RJxnwF-MPi0 A380 Approach and Landing KSFO San Francisco SUBTITLES English (without commentary): http://youtu.be/ENe89j89tBA More videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/Cargospotter/videos |
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Larry Dighera wrote: Wanna see, what happens if you place two former military pilots of the French Navy in the cockpit of an Airbus A380? A vertical take-off and some acrobatic maneuvers are the result. Two pilots who previously worked for the French Navy have been working as test pilots for Airbus since a few years. This was the most amazing A380 performance I have ever seen. Very impressive to see such a big bird gliding threw the skies as if it would be a small Cessna. Of course the fuel tanks were empty because the Airbus just made a short presentation flight for the audience in France. I hope I could see such a performance again someday: http://youtu.be/RJxnwF-MPi0 A380 Approach and Landing KSFO San Francisco SUBTITLES English (without commentary): http://youtu.be/ENe89j89tBA More videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/Cargospotter/videos Nor "acrobatics" or, more precisely, aerobatics there. They never exceeded 60 deg bank angle (more like 45 deg), nor 30 deg. climb angle. They also never retracted the flaps, allowing for enhanced low-speed maneuvering. Also, isn't it amazing how low-speed maneuverability is enhanced with (very) minimum fuel load and no payload? Yes -- it is impressive to see such a huge bird put through its paces -- especially when its very size makes it look as if it is barely moving. |
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On 03/10/14 13:00, Orval Fairbairn wrote:
In article , Larry Dighera wrote: Wanna see, what happens if you place two former military pilots of the French Navy in the cockpit of an Airbus A380? A vertical take-off and some acrobatic maneuvers are the result. Two pilots who previously worked for the French Navy have been working as test pilots for Airbus since a few years. This was the most amazing A380 performance I have ever seen. Very impressive to see such a big bird gliding threw the skies as if it would be a small Cessna. Of course the fuel tanks were empty because the Airbus just made a short presentation flight for the audience in France. I hope I could see such a performance again someday: http://youtu.be/RJxnwF-MPi0 A380 Approach and Landing KSFO San Francisco SUBTITLES English (without commentary): http://youtu.be/ENe89j89tBA More videos: https://www.youtube.com/user/Cargospotter/videos Nor "acrobatics" or, more precisely, aerobatics there. They never exceeded 60 deg bank angle (more like 45 deg), nor 30 deg. climb angle. They also never retracted the flaps, allowing for enhanced low-speed maneuvering. Also, isn't it amazing how low-speed maneuverability is enhanced with (very) minimum fuel load and no payload? Yes -- it is impressive to see such a huge bird put through its paces -- especially when its very size makes it look as if it is barely moving. Yup. The first B747 I ever saw just seemed to stay in one place and the world around it grew smaller... |
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news ![]() http://youtu.be/RJxnwF-MPi0 I wanna see 'em Tex Johnston the thing. ![]() Brian -- http://www.earthwaves.org/forum/index.php - Earth Sciences discussion http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? |
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Skywise wrote: Larry Dighera wrote in news ![]() http://youtu.be/RJxnwF-MPi0 I wanna see 'em Tex Johnston the thing. ![]() Brian Any airplane that can take 3G can be aileron rolled successfully. It would be like watching an elephant dance. |
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Orval Fairbairn wrote
Any airplane that can take 3G can be aileron rolled successfully. It would be like watching an elephant dance. Why 3Gs? I don't recall any specific elevator input when doing aileron rolls back in my Navy aerobatic training nor more recently while flying a YAK-52. You aren't one of those people who confuse aileron rolls with barrel rolls are you? ![]() ![]() ![]() Bob Moore |
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On Friday, October 3, 2014 5:28:05 PM UTC-4, Robert Moore wrote:
Orval Fairbairn wrote Any airplane that can take 3G can be aileron rolled successfully. It would be like watching an elephant dance. Why 3Gs? I don't recall any specific elevator input when doing aileron rolls back in my Navy aerobatic training nor more recently while flying a YAK-52. You aren't one of those people who confuse aileron rolls with barrel rolls are you? ![]() ![]() ![]() Bob Moore Just happened on the thread in passing by. Like to answer this for you but experience tells me not a good idea. :-)) Best to you Bob, Dudley Henriques |
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Robert Moore wrote: Orval Fairbairn wrote Any airplane that can take 3G can be aileron rolled successfully. It would be like watching an elephant dance. Why 3Gs? I don't recall any specific elevator input when doing aileron rolls back in my Navy aerobatic training nor more recently while flying a YAK-52. You aren't one of those people who confuse aileron rolls with barrel rolls are you? ![]() ![]() ![]() Bob Moore Just in case there is a pooch waiting for you at the end. |
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On Friday, October 3, 2014 5:28:05 PM UTC-4, Robert Moore wrote:
Orval Fairbairn wrote Any airplane that can take 3G can be aileron rolled successfully. It would be like watching an elephant dance. Why 3Gs? I don't recall any specific elevator input when doing aileron rolls back in my Navy aerobatic training nor more recently while flying a YAK-52. You aren't one of those people who confuse aileron rolls with barrel rolls are you? ![]() ![]() ![]() Bob Moore I'm fairly sure Orval means that the airplane should be capable of at least 3g's coming off the backside of the roll, especially for a non-aerobatic airplane. In an aileron roll in these airplanes you will be above 1g temporarily as you pull the nose up to a set point to initiate the roll. Once the roll begins you can of course unload the wing or go over the top at 1g as desired. But the back side recovery will be a rolling pullout with asymmetrical g loading on the wings. It's here you have to be careful in non aerobatic aircraft. The ability to handle at least 3g's would be a reasonable number. Dudley Henriques |
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Dudley Henriques wrote: On Friday, October 3, 2014 5:28:05 PM UTC-4, Robert Moore wrote: Orval Fairbairn wrote Any airplane that can take 3G can be aileron rolled successfully. It would be like watching an elephant dance. Why 3Gs? I don't recall any specific elevator input when doing aileron rolls back in my Navy aerobatic training nor more recently while flying a YAK-52. You aren't one of those people who confuse aileron rolls with barrel rolls are you? ![]() ![]() ![]() Bob Moore I'm fairly sure Orval means that the airplane should be capable of at least 3g's coming off the backside of the roll, especially for a non-aerobatic airplane. In an aileron roll in these airplanes you will be above 1g temporarily as you pull the nose up to a set point to initiate the roll. Once the roll begins you can of course unload the wing or go over the top at 1g as desired. But the back side recovery will be a rolling pullout with asymmetrical g loading on the wings. It's here you have to be careful in non aerobatic aircraft. The ability to handle at least 3g's would be a reasonable number. Dudley Henriques Another factor, not usually talked about is the lateral centrifugal accelerations imposed on the engine pods -- both lateral from the rolling and the coupled inertial forces between the rotating masses and the airframe attitude changes. An old co-worker described an autopilot test in the Convair 880: He was applying a preplanned set of gains to the autopilot and reading the aircraft responses when another told him to look outside at the engines. He said that one of the engines was moving in a figure-eight motion -- they immediately suspended the tests. When you have such large, flexible structures flying in unusual motions, you may see some unusual (and not always pleasant) sights. |
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