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May 5th 04, 06:58 AM
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Brantly B2
Please help me with some info on the Brantly B2
Will it be able to be flown safely in South Africa. I live at 4700 ft above sea level with summer temps up to 100F I am worried about density altitude. Thanks Hennie 
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May 7th 04, 11:51 PM
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wrote in message ...
There was one about a year ago that tried to take off from a Florida airport in cool weather with two occupants and a full load of fuel. Apparently, that was overloaded because it got a few feet out over a lake and went plop. It wouldn't be my first choice for a helicopter. Dennis H. Any helicopter out of CG & overloaded would be dangerous to fly (Hennie) wrote: Please help me with some info on the Brantly B2 Will it be able to be flown safely in South Africa. I live at 4700 ft above sea level with summer temps up to 100F I am worried about density altitude. Thanks Hennie Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how Congress is using them to put Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm
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May 8th 04, 05:09 PM
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Hennie: The best we can tell is that the Safari outperforms the Brantly in
these conditions. I have hovered my Safari 8' AGL at density alt. of 8200' with 180# pilot and 1/2 tank fuel. I was not maxed out on power. There must be something about the Brantly blade system that limits their alt performance. The power/wt and hp/wt is as good or better than the Safari. But...... Stu Fields "Hennie" wrote in message om... Please help me with some info on the Brantly B2 Will it be able to be flown safely in South Africa. I live at 4700 ft above sea level with summer temps up to 100F I am worried about density altitude. Thanks Hennie
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May 9th 04, 01:23 AM
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"Stu & Kathy Fields" wrote:
The power/wt and hp/wt is as good or better than the Safari. But...... the brantly is a piece of junk. I'll take my scorpion over a brantly any day. BTW, the hub system on a brantley is a retarded attempt at a fully articulated hub system. It has three heavy blades with the lead-lag hinge about half way out on the blade. Its true, I'm not joking, the blade hinges way out in the middle about 6 feet out. No two-passenger helicopter should have been overloaded with those two skinny guys in there. One was trapped underwater because the cockpit is so cramped. Fortunately, he was able to pop the windscreen out and escape through there. Save your money and buy something besides a brantly. Dennis H. Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how Congress is using them to put Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm
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May 10th 04, 01:26 PM
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Dennis, you're stupid and obviously don't know what you're talking
about. The helicopter was not overloaded on that flight. The guy flying it let the RRPM decay beyond recovery, as can be done with any helicopter. The Brantly is a good, reliable helicopter that can be operated very reasonably. It's also no more cramped than any other 2-place helicopter, and actually has more room than the R22 and certainly more than your rediculous scorpion. wrote in message ... "Stu & Kathy Fields" wrote: The power/wt and hp/wt is as good or better than the Safari. But...... the brantly is a piece of junk. I'll take my scorpion over a brantly any day. BTW, the hub system on a brantley is a retarded attempt at a fully articulated hub system. It has three heavy blades with the lead-lag hinge about half way out on the blade. Its true, I'm not joking, the blade hinges way out in the middle about 6 feet out. No two-passenger helicopter should have been overloaded with those two skinny guys in there. One was trapped underwater because the cockpit is so cramped. Fortunately, he was able to pop the windscreen out and escape through there. Save your money and buy something besides a brantly. Dennis H. Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how Congress is using them to put Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm
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#7
May 10th 04, 04:22 PM
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helopilot wrote:
The Brantly is a good, reliable helicopter that can be operated very reasonably. It may seem a little odd that you don't hear of them more, or see them advertised on such websites as ASO. But correct me I am wrong when I state that the Brantly Company sells every machince it makes.
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#8
May 11th 04, 05:33 AM
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Shiver Me Timbers wrote: helopilot wrote: The Brantly is a good, reliable helicopter that can be operated very reasonably. It may seem a little odd that you don't hear of them more, or see them advertised on such websites as ASO. But correct me I am wrong when I state that the Brantly Company sells every machince it makes. What happens to other companies that don't sell every machine they make. Even Boeing make to order thats why there is only 1 or 2 747's on the production line. rm
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#9
May 11th 04, 12:40 PM
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David, you have a lot of gall to call me stupid. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS STUPID AND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. I was at that airport and saw the thing, WERE YOU THERE?. It was so overloaded that the pilot had to take off like an airplane. It took him several hundred feet to drag it on its skids fast enough to get enough translational lift to get off the ground! According to the pilot, this was reccommended proceedure when the gas tanks were full! For your information, the guy in that flight (which you presume to be an expert) did get off the ground and got half way out over the lake when he realized that something was wrong. He never got more than about 10 feet up. Then he turned back to the airport and got all the way back to the shore of the lake before going plop. Another 20 feet and he would have set down on dry land undamaged. The pilot said that he was giving it maximum throttle. If the rpm decayed, it was due to the craft and not the pilot. The on site FAA guy said that it was overloaded. David, I don't know what kind of idiot you are, but before you call someone else stupid, you'd better get your facts straight. Dennis H. (helopilot) wrote: Dennis, you're stupid and obviously don't know what you're talking about. The helicopter was not overloaded on that flight. The guy flying it let the RRPM decay beyond recovery, as can be done with any helicopter. The Brantly is a good, reliable helicopter that can be operated very reasonably. It's also no more cramped than any other 2-place helicopter, and actually has more room than the R22 and certainly more than your rediculous scorpion. wrote in message ... "Stu & Kathy Fields" wrote: The power/wt and hp/wt is as good or better than the Safari. But...... the brantly is a piece of junk. I'll take my scorpion over a brantly any day. BTW, the hub system on a brantley is a retarded attempt at a fully articulated hub system. It has three heavy blades with the lead-lag hinge about half way out on the blade. Its true, I'm not joking, the blade hinges way out in the middle about 6 feet out. No two-passenger helicopter should have been overloaded with those two skinny guys in there. One was trapped underwater because the cockpit is so cramped. Fortunately, he was able to pop the windscreen out and escape through there. Save your money and buy something besides a brantly. Dennis H. Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how Congress is using them to put Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how Congress is using them to put Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm
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#10
May 12th 04, 01:28 PM
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wrote in message ...
David, you have a lot of gall to call me stupid. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS STUPID AND DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. I was at that airport and saw the thing, WERE YOU THERE?. It was so overloaded that the pilot had to take off like an airplane. It took him several hundred feet to drag it on its skids fast enough to get enough translational lift to get off the ground! According to the pilot, this was reccommended proceedure when the gas tanks were full! For your information, the guy in that flight (which you presume to be an expert) did get off the ground and got half way out over the lake when he realized that something was wrong. He never got more than about 10 feet up. Then he turned back to the airport and got all the way back to the shore of the lake before going plop. Another 20 feet and he would have set down on dry land undamaged. The pilot said that he was giving it maximum throttle. If the rpm decayed, it was due to the craft and not the pilot. The on site FAA guy said that it was overloaded. David, I don't know what kind of idiot you are, but before you call someone else stupid, you'd better get your facts straight. Dennis H. The facts of the crash www.brantly.info NTSB Report-May 2003, N2141U (helopilot) wrote: Dennis, you're stupid and obviously don't know what you're talking about. The helicopter was not overloaded on that flight. The guy flying it let the RRPM decay beyond recovery, as can be done with any helicopter. The Brantly is a good, reliable helicopter that can be operated very reasonably. It's also no more cramped than any other 2-place helicopter, and actually has more room than the R22 and certainly more than your rediculous scorpion. wrote in message ... "Stu & Kathy Fields" wrote: The power/wt and hp/wt is as good or better than the Safari. But...... the brantly is a piece of junk. I'll take my scorpion over a brantly any day. BTW, the hub system on a brantley is a retarded attempt at a fully articulated hub system. It has three heavy blades with the lead-lag hinge about half way out on the blade. Its true, I'm not joking, the blade hinges way out in the middle about 6 feet out. No two-passenger helicopter should have been overloaded with those two skinny guys in there. One was trapped underwater because the cockpit is so cramped. Fortunately, he was able to pop the windscreen out and escape through there. Save your money and buy something besides a brantly. Dennis H. Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how Congress is using them to put Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm Dennis Hawkins n4mwd AT amsat DOT org (humans know what to do) "A RECESSION is when you know somebody who is out of work. A DEPRESSION is when YOU are out of work. A RECOVERY is when all the H-1B's are out of work." To find out what an H-1B is and how Congress is using them to put Americans out of work, visit the following web site and click on the "Exporting America" CNN news video: http://zazona.com/ShameH1B/MediaClips.htm
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