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Old March 26th 15, 04:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I'm very much saddened to have just learned the Andreas Lubitz, the 28- old who deliberately seems to have flown the A 320 into the mountains started flying in a Glider Club (Montabaur). He was still a member and renewed his glider license in 2014 that he had since his teenage-years. If confirmed, this mass murderer is a stain on what we all believe is a brotherhood of ethical and morals-driven individuals. Using Occam's Razor, the explanation given by the French prosecutors this morning is highly likely.
I'm further troubled that this horrible act ended precisely on what the French call "Le Parcours", a much beloved mountain range that allows fast and long North-South glider flights along the French Alps. I had a wonderful glider vacation in Barcelonnette, a couple of km from the crash site. This is all very sad. It must multiply the pain of the survivors of those on board.

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Old March 26th 15, 08:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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I am also so sad to see the Parcours, where my own glider pilot, my US Team pilots at WGCs in 2005 and 2006, and many of our friends have flown many hours, as the scene of such horror. Seyne, where the recovery efforts are based, is also a glider field. Thinking of all of the people affected by this tragic event.
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On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 11:09:46 AM UTC-5, wrote:
I'm very much saddened to have just learned the Andreas Lubitz, the 28- old who deliberately seems to have flown the A 320 into the mountains started flying in a Glider Club (Montabaur). He was still a member and renewed his glider license in 2014 that he had since his teenage-years. If confirmed, this mass murderer is a stain on what we all believe is a brotherhood of ethical and morals-driven individuals. Using Occam's Razor, the explanation given by the French prosecutors this morning is highly likely.
I'm further troubled that this horrible act ended precisely on what the French call "Le Parcours", a much beloved mountain range that allows fast and long North-South glider flights along the French Alps. I had a wonderful glider vacation in Barcelonnette, a couple of km from the crash site. This is all very sad. It must multiply the pain of the survivors of those on board.

Herb

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Old March 27th 15, 01:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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An optimistic view is that he was not one of us based solely on his last flight. He possessed a glider rating, but he was not one of us. To be a glider pilot, you have to be an optimist, (JJI) ~Barny
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Old March 27th 15, 05:28 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 6:53:23 PM UTC-7, wrote:
An optimistic view is that he was not one of us based solely on his last flight. He possessed a glider rating, but he was not one of us. To be a glider pilot, you have to be an optimist, (JJI) ~Barny


Exactly, Barny. To be one of us, one had to have a passion for, care about, and share in the kindred spirit of those who fly, be they bird or man.

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Old March 29th 15, 11:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Please don't equate religion with depression. Religion is about faith before action and focused on better life despite pain and suffering. Faith is about moving forward despite pain. I'm an optimist because of faith
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Old March 30th 15, 01:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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At 09:59 30 March 2015, Don Johnstone wrote:
At 22:27 29 March 2015, wrote:
Please don't equate religion with depression. Religion is about faith
before action and focused on better life despite pain and suffering

Faith
is about moving forward despite pain. I'm an optimist because of faith


Religion and depression have many similarities. Both have elements o
altered response to reality, both can lead to actions which have no basi
in logic, both can lead to harm being caused to others.
The big difference is that nobody wants depression, it is forced on them
People with depression do not want it and most would do anything to get

ri
of it. Religion on the other hand is a choice, which makes it a far wors
disease and is far more dangerous to man.
Who in their right mind would believe in a God who allowed this tragedy t
happen, what kind of capricious, mean minded, stupid God would see

anythin
good in this. Religion encourages fanatics and the world would be bette
off without them and Him.



I find myself agreeing with Don !!

However, if you accept the concept that dogs think of there owners as gods

,what do fighting dogs (pit bulls etc) think of there owners ?

The whole Germanwings thing is a tradgedy and not to be taken lightly ,I am

not sure if we can legislate to prevent a repeat but looking out for your
friends and colleagues and don't be shy of saying something if you think
there is a problem is probably the best way.

On the UK uras site there is a posting from a guy who was grounded because

of bi-polar 10 years ago ,at the time he was quite bitter and made some
postings reflecting that.He now sees how dangerous he was and has posted
thanking those that stopped him.
The benefit of hind site is only available if your still there to look
back




 




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