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These days we're asked to email our log files to
the (often remote) scorer, and PC's are, well, so passe. It's a drag running around trying to find somebody with a PC to email the file. And we definitely to NOT want to delay the scoring. Some flight computers can send the log file directly from the plane. Heck, I prototyped this decades back using a PalmV with cell-modem, and people said "That's silly, you're wasting your time, why would anybody want that?". Cell coverage and speeds were really bad back then anyway. What about using a smart phone to email the log? Android users have a few options; Android can read a USB stick. But what about us iPhone users? "Can't be done!" I'm told by pundits, "Get an Android!". But really, at least until January, we get to chose our religion here in USA. But I digress again. For iPhone, I found a device with an iStore app, that has a Lightning connector on one end (recent iPhones) and a USB-A connector on the other end (like a normal USB memory stick). Works like a charm: normal USB side works with PowerFLARM (which I use as my primary logger) and also with ILEC SN10. https://www.amazon.com/HooToo-Lightn.../dp/B019W8N4DU After copying the log from your logger onto the stick, plug the stick into the iPhone, run the special app, then select and email the file from the external storage. QT will be happy. So you will be happy. Some notes: - Always exit app prior unplugging stick from iPhone. Otherwise you get to reboot your iPhone prior using the app again. - Must be formatted FAT32 (as it is shipped) - Do NOT try "iDrive from Omar's" - does not work!!! PS: For Nerds: Unlike Linux, where I can just write a script to deal with a newly-mounted USB device, I'm told iOS needs a registered app matching the USB deviceID. When iOS reads an unregistered USB stick (using a lightning-to-USB cable), it pops an "import" app, which doesn't seem to do anything with unknown filetypes like IGC, or do anything useful with external files that I could find... A detailed explanation from an iOS nerd would be great. No, don't want to jailbreak... |
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Would one of these wifi usb sticks work for your needs.
https://www.sandisk.com/home/mobile-...wireless-stick On Saturday, September 3, 2016 at 4:37:45 PM UTC-7, Dave Nadler wrote: These days we're asked to email our log files to the (often remote) scorer, and PC's are, well, so passe. It's a drag running around trying to find somebody with a PC to email the file. And we definitely to NOT want to delay the scoring. Some flight computers can send the log file directly from the plane. Heck, I prototyped this decades back using a PalmV with cell-modem, and people said "That's silly, you're wasting your time, why would anybody want that?". Cell coverage and speeds were really bad back then anyway. What about using a smart phone to email the log? Android users have a few options; Android can read a USB stick. But what about us iPhone users? "Can't be done!" I'm told by pundits, "Get an Android!". But really, at least until January, we get to chose our religion here in USA. But I digress again. For iPhone, I found a device with an iStore app, that has a Lightning connector on one end (recent iPhones) and a USB-A connector on the other end (like a normal USB memory stick). Works like a charm: normal USB side works with PowerFLARM (which I use as my primary logger) and also with ILEC SN10. https://www.amazon.com/HooToo-Lightn.../dp/B019W8N4DU After copying the log from your logger onto the stick, plug the stick into the iPhone, run the special app, then select and email the file from the external storage. QT will be happy. So you will be happy. Some notes: - Always exit app prior unplugging stick from iPhone. Otherwise you get to reboot your iPhone prior using the app again. - Must be formatted FAT32 (as it is shipped) - Do NOT try "iDrive from Omar's" - does not work!!! PS: For Nerds: Unlike Linux, where I can just write a script to deal with a newly-mounted USB device, I'm told iOS needs a registered app matching the USB deviceID. When iOS reads an unregistered USB stick (using a lightning-to-USB cable), it pops an "import" app, which doesn't seem to do anything with unknown filetypes like IGC, or do anything useful with external files that I could find... A detailed explanation from an iOS nerd would be great. No, don't want to jailbreak... |
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On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 6:02:04 AM UTC-4, wrote:
Would one of these wifi usb sticks work for your needs. https://www.sandisk.com/home/mobile-...wireless-stick Possibly, but does have to be kept charged, and requires turning on WiFi on phone. Let us know if anybody tries one of these! |
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At 23:37 03 September 2016, Dave Nadler wrote:
What about using a smart phone to email the log? Android users have a few options; Android can read a USB stick. But what about us iPhone users? "Can't be done!" I'm told by pundits, "Get an Android!". But really, at least until January, we get to chose our religion here in USA. But I digress again. Dave, what about using a USB SD card reader plugged into your logger / flarm, then use one of the Wi-Fi enabled SD cards, most of the memory suppliers offer these now and some even have iOS apps that let you email files straight from the card without having to copy them to your phone first, looking at an on-line review they start at as little as $30 US, unfortunately no one seems to do a micro SD yet, they are all full size hence the need for a USB adapter. You would only need the lowest capacity available as log files are tiny compared to photos etc. Ben. |
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The wifi ones work also, even for uploading files to OLC (but not with the standard Safari browser).
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On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 11:22:57 AM UTC-4, wrote:
The wifi ones work also, even for uploading files to OLC (but not with the standard Safari browser). Can you confirm a particular model that works with PowerFLARM core and ILEC SN10? Lots of stuff *should* work, but doesn't... Thanks! Best Regards, Dave PS: I recently had to send back a Sandisk USB stick because it had wildly less than advertised capacity (and unlike their tech 'support' Indians, I do know how to compute powers of 2 ;-) Lots of returns of that part also for over-heating! |
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On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 11:15:06 AM UTC-4, Benedict Smith wrote:
Dave, what about using a USB SD card reader plugged into your logger / flarm, then use one of the Wi-Fi enabled SD cards, most of the memory suppliers offer these now and some even have iOS apps that let you email files straight from the card without having to copy them to your phone first, looking at an on-line review they start at as little as $30 US, unfortunately no one seems to do a micro SD yet, they are all full size hence the need for a USB adapter. You would only need the lowest capacity available as log files are tiny compared to photos etc. Ben. Can you confirm a specific model that works with PowerFLARM core and ILEC SN10? Or is this RAS (random aviation speculation)? Again, lots of things *should* work, but... Thanks! Best Regards, Dave |
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iPhone or iPad running iGlide can post directly to OLC. Remote scorer can get the file from there. It works like a charm.
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On Sunday, September 4, 2016 at 9:49:22 PM UTC-4, wrote:
iPhone or iPad running iGlide can post directly to OLC. Most contest pilots will be using dedicated loggers. Remote scorer can get the file from there. I want to watch when you explain to the scorer that he's supposed to go search for your file... Aaarrrgggg..... |
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wrote on 9/4/2016 6:49 PM:
iPhone or iPad running iGlide can post directly to OLC. Remote scorer can get the file from there. It works like a charm. Where does IGC file come from? Iglide? Or some other logger? -- Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to email me) - "A Guide to Self-Launching Sailplane Operation" https://sites.google.com/site/motorg...ad-the-guide-1 - "Transponders in Sailplanes - Dec 2014a" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/...anes-2014A.pdf |
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