Becker AR 4201

I purchased a Becker AR 4201 out of a European glider, but it didn't come with a wiring harness. Any leads on a reasonably priced one? Also interested in a more detailed installation guide/electrical diagram of the output and power supply for this radio, as I may be able to make my own wiring harness if I just know which wires go where and for what. I'd also be interested in a functional used boom mike compatible with this radio. Thanks.

Wings and Wheels list 4201 hardness for $150, or will have one made.
I ‘searched‘ the item and a list of options came up.

R

On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 1:20:05 PM UTC-4, Retting wrote:
Wings and Wheels list 4201 hardness for $150, or will have one made.
I ‘searched‘ the item and a list of options came up.

R

It's a standard DB25 connector (albeit in an atypical housing that locks on without screws - anybody know of a source for exactly such a connector?). For use in a single-seat glider (no intercom) probably only need 5 wires: ground, power, mic, PTT and speaker. $150 seems a bit high if you can solder your own. The owner's manual (available online) has the wiring info.

On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 12:48:24 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 1:20:05 PM UTC-4, Retting wrote:
Wings and Wheels list 4201 hardness for $150, or will have one made.
I ‘searched‘ the item and a list of options came up.

R

It's a standard DB25 connector (albeit in an atypical housing that locks on without screws - anybody know of a source for exactly such a connector?).. For use in a single-seat glider (no intercom) probably only need 5 wires: ground, power, mic, PTT and speaker. $150 seems a bit high if you can solder your own. The owner's manual (available online) has the wiring info.

Love the Becker radios.

Three comments;

1) Use aviation Tezel wire. Wings and Wheels has that.
2) The connection to the microphone can be "tricky" due to the shielding and very fine wires.
3) The Becker version of the DB-25 connector can be purchased from http://cumulus-soaring.com.
4) The manual is online at http://www.becker-avionics.com/manuals/.

Unless you are confident with using a soldering iron, $150 seems pretty reasonable. This harness may be set up for a two seater. If you have a single seater W&W's may make a version for that also which could be cheaper. Call and ask.

Good luck.

- John

On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 7:05:41 AM UTC-7, OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 12:48:24 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 1:20:05 PM UTC-4, Retting wrote:
Wings and Wheels list 4201 hardness for $150, or will have one made.
I ‘searched‘ the item and a list of options came up.

R

It's a standard DB25 connector (albeit in an atypical housing that locks on without screws - anybody know of a source for exactly such a connector?). For use in a single-seat glider (no intercom) probably only need 5 wires: ground, power, mic, PTT and speaker. $150 seems a bit high if you can solder your own. The owner's manual (available online) has the wiring info..

Love the Becker radios.

Three comments;

1) Use aviation Tezel wire. Wings and Wheels has that.
2) The connection to the microphone can be "tricky" due to the shielding and very fine wires.
3) The Becker version of the DB-25 connector can be purchased from http://cumulus-soaring.com.
4) The manual is online at http://www.becker-avionics.com/manuals/.

Unless you are confident with using a soldering iron, $150 seems pretty reasonable. This harness may be set up for a two seater. If you have a single seater W&W's may make a version for that also which could be cheaper. Call and ask.

Good luck.

- John

Nice to do it right the first time.
The Becker 6201 uses the same wiring harness, if you decide to upgrade.
Jim

I have made roughly 30 harnesses for 4201s and depending how many I make in one go depends on the time needed. 1=1 hour total time. 2=1:20 3=1:40
If you are in practice and know what you are doing they are easy

On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 9:58:52 AM UTC-7, John Foster wrote:
I purchased a Becker AR 4201 out of a European glider, but it didn't come with a wiring harness. Any leads on a reasonably priced one? Also interested in a more detailed installation guide/electrical diagram of the output and power supply for this radio, as I may be able to make my own wiring harness if I just know which wires go where and for what. I'd also be interested in a functional used boom mike compatible with this radio. Thanks.

Do these use the high density pins or the regular pins? I have the crimper for the regular size pins but have been unable to find one that works with the HD pins.

The connector may not be listed on the Cumulus-Soaring web site. But I have bought the connectors through Paul before so I believe he stocks them. Drop him an email.

Unsure what you mean by high density versus regular pins. Do you mean HD = triple row of pins like a laptop VGA connector? The Becker connector is a double row of 25 pins. I cannot tell if the connector linked by Ross from Conrad.com has crimp type pins or solder type pins.

- John OHM Ω

On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 9:21:18 PM UTC-7, OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
The connector may not be listed on the Cumulus-Soaring web site. But I have bought the connectors through Paul before so I believe he stocks them. Drop him an email.

Unsure what you mean by high density versus regular pins. Do you mean HD = triple row of pins like a laptop VGA connector? The Becker connector is a double row of 25 pins. I cannot tell if the connector linked by Ross from Conrad.com has crimp type pins or solder type pins.

- John OHM Ω

There are two sizes of pins for D-Sub connectors. The high density ones are smaller and harder to crimp then the ones you see used for computers. Garmin products usually use the HD pins.

You /_can_/ solder wires into crimp pins.Â* Tin the wire first and use
care - not too much solder.

On 10/4/2018 10:21 PM, OHM Ω http://aviation.derosaweb.net wrote:
The connector may not be listed on the Cumulus-Soaring web site. But I have bought the connectors through Paul before so I believe he stocks them. Drop him an email.

Unsure what you mean by high density versus regular pins. Do you mean HD = triple row of pins like a laptop VGA connector? The Becker connector is a double row of 25 pins. I cannot tell if the connector linked by Ross from Conrad.com has crimp type pins or solder type pins.

- John OHM Ω

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Dan, 5J