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To continue to my discussion with Burt... ;-)
As noted in the previous thread, we all need to build an aerodynamic model to inform our decision making process. I'd like to offer up some notions that might make examining these models a little easier: First, a model is only as good as its ability to predict outcomes accurately. Second, all models are flawed. Third, a model for airmanship is only useful if it allows quick reference and quick action. Fourth, a good model does not purport to tell the truth.... that is the realm of philosophy. Fifth, an aviator's model will be very different from an engineer's model; however, they should not vary in substance, only in application. Sixth, because of the third point, it will be necessary to create a system of simplified models. None of these models should conflict in substance or application. The object here is to agree that because all models are artficial constructs, they are all flawed, and therefore, all open to improvement. So the comment, "Your model is flawed..." should be universally acceptable. "Of coruse it's flawed. It's a model." Then we can get on with the business of whether a particular element can stand improvement. Let me introduce a last notion to help the discussion along. One model that borders on axiomatic is F=ma. If a aircraft is subject to an unbalanced force (Fnet does not equal zero), the aircraft will must accelerate: that is, it must be changing its speed or direction. If a force is acting on an aircraft it must accelerate. Try integrating that with some of your models to see if they suffer. (Yeah, I know... hurry up spring!) |
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OK, maybe this is too esoteric. Let me ground it. I have often heard
professional pilots say that a side slip is used to counteract the force of the wind. This comment implies a model in which the wind applies a force to an aircraft in flight and that the horizontal component of lift of the tilted wing (in a slip) allows the aircraft to fly straight. While this model works, it is flawed (as all model are). But is there a better model to be had? The problem with this model is that it is not compatible with other models. For instance, F=ma. If the wind applies a force to an aircraft in flight, where is the acceleration? The obejct here is to deconstuct some of our more cherished models to see if there is room for improvement. And remember, there are very few universal models. Most have subtleties based on who taught you, what books you've read, your own experience... |
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Hi,
The problem with this model is that it is not compatible with other models. For instance, F=ma. If the wind applies a force to an aircraft in flight, where is the acceleration? The wind applies a force. That force is cancelled by the horizontal component of lift. So the net force is zero and the acceleration turns out to be zero too. If you like to you can also calculate two accelerations. As the mass stays the same those would cancel each other in the same way. Ciao, MM -- Marian Aldenhövel, Rosenhain 23, 53123 Bonn. +49 228 624013. http://www.marian-aldenhoevel.de "Wir brauchen keine Opposition, wir sind bereits Demokraten." |
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If the wings are level, then, the wind applies an unbalanced force?
Please show me the resulting acceleration (changing speed and/or direction) that results during wings level flight. Remember, so long as the force remains unbalanced, there will be a continuous change of speed and/or direction. Does everyone see the problem with this model of crosswinds? Marian, thanks for responding. |
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Hi,
If the wings are level, then, the wind applies an unbalanced force? If you start from an aircraft at rest or one that enters the crosswind suddenly from a crosswind-free area (all theoretical of course) it will be accelerated sideways. You can feel that. F=ma holds true. Remember, so long as the force remains unbalanced, there will be a continuous change of speed and/or direction. The F is only non-zero until the wind has accelerated the aircraft sideways to it's own speed. After that you move sideways above ground but the crosswind does no longer excert force on the aircraft and so the acceleration stops. If you want to keep a straight track over the ground in the face of a crosswind you need to accelerate into the wind. To do so you bank, the horizontal component applies an F to the aircraft, you accelerate. At this moment the aircraft can "feel" the wind and you get your F_wind back. If you bank by just the right amount this F and the F_wind balance each other at the exact point where you travel above ground in the direction you want to go. Does everyone see the problem with this model of crosswinds? I don't. Ciao, MM -- Marian Aldenhövel, Rosenhain 23, 53123 Bonn. +49 228 624013. http://www.marian-aldenhoevel.de "Wir brauchen keine Opposition, wir sind bereits Demokraten." |
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Marian,
read Todd's post. He works through it nicely. I've commented on it as well. |
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