A&P heroics

A&P heroics in landing gear save:

http://www.mccookgazette.com/story/1109870.html

-Jim

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A&P heroics in landing gear save:

http://www.mccookgazette.com/story/1109870.html

-Jim

Happy to see that these guys succeeded, but this kind of thing shows poor
judgement.

You're taking a real chance of a plane vs pickup truck accident, and that's
likely to result in fatalities. Belly the aircraft in with the prop turning
and let the insurance company deal with it. Better for them to buy you a
new engine, prop, or airplane than for them to buy someone all that stuff,
plus a pickup truck and a few coffins.

Why not deadstick the airplane to a belly landing, and "save" the
powertrain? Because you have not practiced that maneuver, and doing it dead
stick prevents you from a go-around if you don't like the setup. Again,
sacrifice the airplane, it can be repaired or replaced.

KB

Kyle Boatright wrote:

You're taking a real chance of a plane vs pickup truck accident, and that's
likely to result in fatalities. Belly the aircraft in with the prop turning
and let the insurance company deal with it.

With that ridiculous Cessna gear half down, a belly landing is a real good way
to kill everybody.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Kyle Boatright wrote:

You're taking a real chance of a plane vs pickup truck accident, and
that's likely to result in fatalities. Belly the aircraft in with the
prop turning and let the insurance company deal with it.

With that ridiculous Cessna gear half down, a belly landing is a real good
way to kill everybody.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

The gear *may* have been unable to lock up or down, but the article only
says they couldn't get it to lock down. It doesn't specify if they tried to
retract it...

KB

"George Patterson" wrote:
With that ridiculous Cessna gear half down, a belly landing is a real
good way
to kill everybody.

Oh, baloney, George. At least a couple of high wing Cessnas land with
the gear dangling every year without harming the occupants.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:51:28 -0400, "Kyle Boatright"
wrote:

Happy to see that these guys succeeded, but this kind of thing shows poor
judgement.

Maybe, maybe not. They managed to get the gear locked down, albeit
after 10 tries. They probably did a couple of passes while just
checking to see how things would work. The picture shows that it was
not necessary for the pickup to be below the airplane, it was on the
right so the pilot could see it. This made it much easier to maintain
formation with the truck, and visa versa.

I've seen pictures of a low wing retract having it's gear pulled down
and that was REALLY hairy because the truck driver was directly
beneath the airplane which would greatly reduce the pilot's ability to
see where it was.

In this case, the airplane and truck were beside each other so even if
something bad happened, there was some room to maneuver. The truck
driver was an experienced race car driver.

Seems like they tried to shave the odds in their favor as best they
could. The way some of you guys are talking it's as if this was
horrifyingly dangerous loonesy. But despite having to try the attempt
10 times, they apparently did not scare each other badly enough to
stop trying, and managed to do what they had to do. Looks like the
pilot and ground personnel made the best of a bad situation.

Corky Scott

Maybe 25 years ago there were pictures of a Queen or King Air that had
to have some one hanging on the elevator to keep a stuck nose gear off
the ground. It was done with two guys on a fast motorcycle with number
two dressed in full leathers and having a lot of nerve. As I recall it
was successful.

"Jim" wrote in news:1121470690.030107.157140
@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

A&P heroics in landing gear save:

http://www.mccookgazette.com/story/1109870.html

-Jim


A few questions.

Why so fast, "90 mph"? What are the v speeds of this plane? I couldn't
find them readily online. Looking at the photo it didn't appear the flaps
were down at all. I'm thinking with flaps they could have gone slower down
the runway and the pickup would have been able to keep up easier and
they'd have more time on each attempt.

But I'm glad they succeeded so well.

Brian
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("Skywise" wrote)
http://www.mccookgazette.com/story/1109870.html

Why so fast, "90 mph"? What are the v speeds of this plane? I couldn't
find them readily online. Looking at the photo it didn't appear the flaps
were down at all. I'm thinking with flaps they could have gone slower down
the runway and the pickup would have been able to keep up easier and
they'd have more time on each attempt.


A motorcycle helmet on the guy with the pole is the first thing I looked
for.

http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/i...plane205.shtml
Cessna Centurion - Stall Speed


Montblack

Skywise wrote:
Why so fast, "90 mph"? What are the v speeds of this plane? I couldn't
find them readily online. Looking at the photo it didn't appear the flaps
were down at all. I'm thinking with flaps they could have gone slower down
the runway and the pickup would have been able to keep up easier and
they'd have more time on each attempt.


I always used 80 knots (or about 90 mph) on final in the C-210. You could slow
it down a little more but you're messing around with "coffin corner" if you have
to climb out again.

These guys did an excellent job.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE