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Small plane enters shuttle no-fly zone
Pilot disappears after being forced to land

From Mike Mount
CNN Washington Bureau
Friday, July 29, 2005; Posted: 6:53 a.m. EDT (10:53 GMT)

A small plane came within 20 miles of Discovery's launch pad three
minutes before liftoff Tuesday.


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The pilot of a small plane that penetrated the
no-fly zone around Kennedy Space Center shortly before the space
shuttle's launch Tuesday disappeared after being forced to land, Air
Force officials said.

The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating, the officials said
Thursday.....

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I am glad he got away. 40 mile no fly zone. Idiotic. Shuttle program.
Expensive idiocy.


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http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/space/0...ane/index.html

Small plane enters shuttle no-fly zone
Pilot disappears after being forced to land

From Mike Mount
CNN Washington Bureau
Friday, July 29, 2005; Posted: 6:53 a.m. EDT (10:53 GMT)

A small plane came within 20 miles of Discovery's launch pad three minutes
before liftoff Tuesday.


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The pilot of a small plane that penetrated the no-fly
zone around Kennedy Space Center shortly before the space shuttle's launch
Tuesday disappeared after being forced to land, Air Force officials said.

The Federal Aviation Administration is investigating, the officials said
Thursday.....

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On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:41:50 -0700, "John Larson" None ... wrote in
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Shuttle program. Expensive idiocy.


Ah! At last, the words of an expert. :-)

"LD" == Larry Dighera writes:

LD On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:41:50 -0700, "John Larson" None ...
LD wrote in ::

Shuttle program. Expensive idiocy.


LD Ah! At last, the words of an expert. :-)

Well, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out:

1) Launch shuttle with a zillion cameras following it to check for
debris.

2) Spend orbital time examining yourself for damage, offloading
supplies to a useless space station and onloading said station's
garbage.

3) Return and repeat.

It's time someone said that both the shuttle and the ISS have turned
out to be stupid ideas. I'm not against science and progress, and
even risk, but I am against ****ing pointlessly into a headwind and
wondering why we stink.

"Bob Fry" wrote:

It's time someone said that both the shuttle and the ISS have turned
out to be stupid ideas. I'm not against science and progress, and
even risk, but I am against ****ing pointlessly into a headwind and
wondering why we stink.

Hear, hear.

--

Dan
C172RG at BFM

In article , Bob Fry
wrote:

Well, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out:

and what have you figured out?


1) Launch shuttle with a zillion cameras following it to check for
debris.

2) Spend orbital time examining yourself for damage, offloading
supplies to a useless space station and onloading said station's
garbage.

nice circular "logic"


3) Return and repeat.

It's time someone said that both the shuttle and the ISS have turned
out to be stupid ideas.

People have been whining about the space program for decades.

I'm not against science and progress, and even risk,

for some reason, I don't believe you

--
Bob Noel
no one likes an educated mule

Bob Noel wrote:
In article , Bob Fry
wrote:

It's time someone said that both the shuttle and the ISS have turned
out to be stupid ideas.

People have been whining about the space program for decades.

Well, maybe we'd whine less if it accomplished more. It took us less
than ten years to go from the atmosphere to the surface of the moon and
back. 36 years later we've gone nowhere.

On the 20th anniversary of Apollo, Bush Sr. asked NASA for a mission
plan for a Mars landing. The plan came back with a $200 billion price
tag. This number was deliberately cooked up to be as expensive as
possible to guarantee the idea would be shelved. Why? Because they were
afraid that if the Mars mission were doable we'd pull the plug on the
ISS gravy train.

There's an old joke that you're not a real country unless you have your
own airline and a national beer. Five years ago putting a man in space
was something only the superpowers had done. Now that Burt Rutal and
Paul Allen crashed that party, we either need to either s--t or get off
the pot. For the price of a shuttle launch we can send a robot to Mars
where real discoveries can be made. I'm fully in favor of manned space
exploration but all this ****ing around in LEO isn't getting us
anywhere.

-cwk.

"Bob Fry" wrote in message ...
"LD" == Larry Dighera writes:

LD On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 09:41:50 -0700, "John Larson" None ...
LD wrote in ::

Shuttle program. Expensive idiocy.


LD Ah! At last, the words of an expert. :-)

Well, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out:

1) Launch shuttle with a zillion cameras following it to check for
debris.

2) Spend orbital time examining yourself for damage, offloading
supplies to a useless space station and onloading said station's
garbage.

3) Return and repeat.

It's time someone said that both the shuttle and the ISS have turned
out to be stupid ideas. I'm not against science and progress, and
even risk, but I am against ****ing pointlessly into a headwind and
wondering why we stink.

You should see all the preflight parties all at taxpayer expense. Same stuff happens in the military...

"John Larson" None ... wrote in message
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I am glad he got away. 40 mile no fly zone. Idiotic.

OK, he abandoned the plane he was flying. Someone will want that plane back.
They will find out who was flying it. He escaped, for now.

A 40 mile no-fly zone around the shuttle launch site makes a hell of a lot
more sense than the presidential TFR's that go up every time he wants to fly
somewhere to kiss ass.

And why would that make sense? It costs $1,000,000,000 to launch the garbage
scow (yes, the secondary mission of the shuttle, after the failed test
flight re. the parts falling off this model T, and the delivery of supplies
that could have been done by the Russians with their unmanned vehicle) was
to retrieve the 13 odd tons of garbage the useless space station has been
collecting.

It is so annoying to read the posts by you Buck Rogers wannabe's on this
board. You are all so enthralled by the space program you can't see just how
pointless and useless it is.

Yes, we have been whining about this boondoggle, the shuttle, and the ISS
for years. And with good reason.
"Mike W." wrote in message
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"John Larson" None ... wrote in message
...
I am glad he got away. 40 mile no fly zone. Idiotic.

OK, he abandoned the plane he was flying. Someone will want that plane
back.
They will find out who was flying it. He escaped, for now.

A 40 mile no-fly zone around the shuttle launch site makes a hell of a lot
more sense than the presidential TFR's that go up every time he wants to
fly
somewhere to kiss ass.