copy lic. ok?

well, the numbers are starting to rub off my pretty new airplane
drivers license. anyone know if it's ok if i just make a nice copy and
carry that or do i have to have the original card in my possession on a
ramp check.


dan

I see some of mine are getting rubbed off too...guess my wallet's gonna get
thicker... photocopy the plastic ones, laminate both the plastic and the
photo copies.
Jim

"houstondan" wrote in message
oups.com...
well, the numbers are starting to rub off my pretty new airplane
drivers license. anyone know if it's ok if i just make a nice copy and
carry that or do i have to have the original card in my possession on a
ramp check.


dan

"houstondan" wrote in message
oups.com...
well, the numbers are starting to rub off my pretty new airplane
drivers license. anyone know if it's ok if i just make a nice copy and
carry that or do i have to have the original card in my possession on a
ramp check.

FAR 61.3a1 requires you to have the certificate itself in your physical
possession.

The print began rubbing off mine, too, after just a few months (whereas my
driver's license is still perfectly legible after five years). The name and
number on mine are still intact, though.

You can request a replacement certificate online at
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certific...e_replacement/.
They charge $2, but I would refuse to pay the fee if the original license is
defective.

--Gary

gary...thanks for the useful info. i'm in the fed site so i'll get
registered, get the new card, copy it, have it laminated, hide the old
one just in case since they say they will not issue more than one
replacment. i guess if your wallet gets stolen twice you're not a pilot
anymore?

as to standing on the principle and protesting the 2$ by standing
outside crawford...no, holdit...that's another protest...i think i'll
pass. the federal government is pretty immune to protests on principle.

dan

"houstondan" wrote in message
oups.com...
gary...thanks for the useful info. i'm in the fed site so i'll get
registered, get the new card, copy it, have it laminated, hide the old
one just in case since they say they will not issue more than one
replacment. i guess if your wallet gets stolen twice you're not a pilot
anymore?

Do you mean the part where they say "We can only issue one copy of each
certificate"? I assumed they just meant one at a time.

--Gary

Gary Drescher wrote:
"houstondan" wrote in message
oups.com...
gary...thanks for the useful info. i'm in the fed site so i'll get
registered, get the new card, copy it, have it laminated, hide the old
one just in case since they say they will not issue more than one
replacment. i guess if your wallet gets stolen twice you're not a pilot
anymore?

Do you mean the part where they say "We can only issue one copy of each
certificate"? I assumed they just meant one at a time.

--Gary


the writer of that sentence probably meant that but do you think a
federal beaurocrat would make that assumption or would they more likely
just read the literal reg and refuse to issue another copy if the
file/computer shows you've already gotten one?


dan

"houstondan" wrote in message
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Gary Drescher wrote:
"houstondan" wrote in message
oups.com...
gary...thanks for the useful info. i'm in the fed site so i'll get
registered, get the new card, copy it, have it laminated, hide the old
one just in case since they say they will not issue more than one
replacment. i guess if your wallet gets stolen twice you're not a pilot
anymore?

Do you mean the part where they say "We can only issue one copy of each
certificate"? I assumed they just meant one at a time.

--Gary

the writer of that sentence probably meant that but do you think a
federal beaurocrat would make that assumption or would they more likely
just read the literal reg and refuse to issue another copy if the
file/computer shows you've already gotten one?

The web page in question is directed at the general public. The bureaucrat
who issues the certificates probably sees a much different document.

In any case, out of 600,000 US pilots, there have surely been some who lost
their physical certificates multiple times. If they'd been denied
replacements, we'd probably have heard about it.

--Gary

A copy is fine.



houstondan wrote:

well, the numbers are starting to rub off my pretty new airplane
drivers license. anyone know if it's ok if i just make a nice copy and
carry that or do i have to have the original card in my possession on a
ramp check.


dan

"Newps" wrote in message
...
houstondan wrote:

well, the numbers are starting to rub off my pretty new airplane
drivers license. anyone know if it's ok if i just make a nice copy and
carry that or do i have to have the original card in my possession on a
ramp check.

A copy is fine.

How do you reconcile that claim with 61.3a1?

--Gary

The hell you say. Spend the $3, get a fresh copy, and have it laminated at
an insty-print store.


A copy is fine.