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TRUTH wrote:
Tenured Physics Professor Steven E Jones gave two seminars to hundreds of people on WTC controlled demolitions and how the government's version of events "defies physics". The Feb 1st seminar can be viewed on Google Video, or downloaded to your computer. The following is a excerpt from Jones' PEER REVIEWED paper: 1) It was NOT peer reviewed. 2) The URL of his paper: http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html Professor Jones now has dozens of people suporting him. His finding are based on scientific evidence and logical reasoning. Jones is not a qualified building engineer. He has repeatedly founded elaborate theories on tiny bits of evidence. For example, he also believes that Jesus Christ visited ancient America: http://www.physics.byu.edu/faculty/j...%20figures.htm You and Jones both make the mistake of starting from a conclusion and selecting facts that support it while ignoring those that don't. The next step you take is to assume, incorrectly, that attacking someone elses explanation X automatically makes your explanation Y the correct answer. |
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Jim Logajan wrote in
: TRUTH wrote: Tenured Physics Professor Steven E Jones gave two seminars to hundreds of people on WTC controlled demolitions and how the government's version of events "defies physics". The Feb 1st seminar can be viewed on Google Video, or downloaded to your computer. The following is a excerpt from Jones' PEER REVIEWED paper: 1) It was NOT peer reviewed. 2) The URL of his paper: http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html Professor Jones now has dozens of people suporting him. His finding are based on scientific evidence and logical reasoning. Jones is not a qualified building engineer. He has repeatedly founded elaborate theories on tiny bits of evidence. For example, he also believes that Jesus Christ visited ancient America: http://www.physics.byu.edu/faculty/j...%20and%20figur es.htm You and Jones both make the mistake of starting from a conclusion and selecting facts that support it while ignoring those that don't. The next step you take is to assume, incorrectly, that attacking someone elses explanation X automatically makes your explanation Y the correct answer. Yes, hius paper was peer reviewed. Perhaps if you look into it instead of jumping to wild half baked conclusions (being the government's absurd) version, you'd see it. |
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Yes, hius paper was peer reviewed. By what journal? |
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TRUTH wrote: Yes, hius paper was peer reviewed. Actually, a couple of guys looked it over for publication in a heavily-slanted collection of articles on 9/11. not in any sort of real peer-reviewed journal with any sort of bearing on the actual subject. |
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TRUTH wrote:
Yes, hius paper was peer reviewed. Perhaps if you look into it instead of jumping to wild half baked conclusions (being the government's absurd) version, you'd see it. By peers, I assume you mean people as wacky as him? Matt |
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Jones does not need to be a building engineer. He's a physicist and is
therefore qualified to determine if the government's version defies physics. And since his paper, and the 150 people in st911.org, use science, and not kooky proofless boxcutter nonsense, they can see that the WTC was taken down by controled demolitions. So can anyone else who looks at the information I posted. |
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TRUTH wrote:
Jones does not need to be a building engineer. He's a physicist and is therefore qualified to determine if the government's version defies physics. So? I have a physics degree too. Why do you listen to Jones and not the people with physics and engineering degrees who wrote the reports that contradict Jones' theory? If you were really objective, you'd consider their analysis too. You'd quote from them equally and contrast the explanations yourself. But my guess is that you don't have the technical background to do that, so you are using subjective criteria that leads you to unfounded beliefs. |
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Jim Logajan wrote in
: TRUTH wrote: Jones does not need to be a building engineer. He's a physicist and is therefore qualified to determine if the government's version defies physics. So? I have a physics degree too. Why do you listen to Jones and not the people with physics and engineering degrees who wrote the reports that contradict Jones' theory? If you were really objective, you'd consider their analysis too. You'd quote from them equally and contrast the explanations yourself. But my guess is that you don't have the technical background to do that, so you are using subjective criteria that leads you to unfounded beliefs. You're making the assumption that people have been proving Jones wrong. That is not true. If you know otherwise, please prove it. I do not have a physics/engineering degree, but do have a technical background, and definitely have an abundance of common sense. Look at the info in my other posts. If you have a physics degree, I challenge you to read Jones' paper and demonstrate that anything that he has to say to be false. Are you aware these NIST facts? FACT: The NIST investigators made the assumption that collapse initiation would "inevitably" lead to global collapse, despite the fact that it never happened before in world history. FACT: The NIST investigators performed little analysis of the structural behavior of the Towers following collapse initiation FACT: The NIST investigators altered the data for their computer simulations FACT: The NIST investigators refuse to show their computer simulation model despite calls from leading structural and fire engineers. |
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TRUTH wrote:
I do not have a physics/engineering degree, but do have a technical background, and definitely have an abundance of common sense. You may be able to test Jones' speculations in the comfort of your own home. No need for any math or computer simulations. You'll need a set of Dominos or other long skinny rectangular blocks. Construct a mini WTC or WTC-7 along these lines: --- | | --- | | --- | | --- | | -- Knock out support column here. --- | | --- | | --- | | --- | | --- | | --- | | --- | | --- | | ------------------ - Ground level Using a finger, small ball, or other mechanism to knock out a support Domino about 2/3rds the way up. Observe the collapse. Does the tower tip over or does it collapse in a manner similar to the WTC collapse? It has been 40-some years since I built toy buildings out of Dominos (more fun than playing the game, IMHO) and haven't got any games pieces or blocks handy, so it will be interesting to see what you or others report. Clearly no explosives have been planted in the model (using fire crackers should be left for advanced experiments under adult supervision). As extra credit, if you can rig something to begin free falling next to the model when the top of the building starts falling, you can get an idea how much slower the top falls relative to free fall. Let me know how the experiment goes. |
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TRUTH wrote:
I do not have a physics/engineering degree, but do have a technical background, and definitely have an abundance of common sense. You have NO common sense. |
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