Supplemental O2 and children

Does anyone have any experience using supplemental O2 with children ages
six and eight? Can this be done successfully (assuming the children are
very good at following directions)?

I am planning two round trip flights this summer in the non-pressurized
turbo Bonanza, one across the US from NY to Colorado and the second from NY
to North Carolina.

In both cases I would prefer to cruise in the mid-teens, which would
provide the best chance to be above the haze in the event that isolated
thunderstorms are about. Of course, all this would depend on whether my
children would be able to use either cannulas (preferably) or masks to
breath the supplemental O2.

--
Peter

You can have them use O2 when above 15,000 feet, they'll be
quieter without it.

Any mask must fit, children's faces are smaller, you may
need special masks. Cannulas are not as effective,
particularly if they are mouth breathers, but they are not
as claustrophobic as masks.



--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

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"Peter R." wrote in message
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| Does anyone have any experience using supplemental O2 with
children ages
| six and eight? Can this be done successfully (assuming
the children are
| very good at following directions)?
|
| I am planning two round trip flights this summer in the
non-pressurized
| turbo Bonanza, one across the US from NY to Colorado and
the second from NY
| to North Carolina.
|
| In both cases I would prefer to cruise in the mid-teens,
which would
| provide the best chance to be above the haze in the event
that isolated
| thunderstorms are about. Of course, all this would depend
on whether my
| children would be able to use either cannulas (preferably)
or masks to
| breath the supplemental O2.
|
| --
| Peter

Jim Macklin wrote:

You can have them use O2 when above 15,000 feet, they'll be
quieter without it.

My concern had to do with the other side effects of lower O2 in their
blood, as in dizziness, nausea, irritability, etc.


--
Peter

I get a tight feeling between my eyes, same as having two
beers when at 25,000 feet without O2. This was same
reaction every time I've been in the chamber at OKC. A
person in good health can do OK at 15,000 for some time if
they are not required to think or do any tasks. Hypoxia is
a cheap drunk for me, but I am peaceful and polite.

The pilot must use O2 any time above 14,000 while it must
only be available for passengers at 15,000. Personally, I
use O2 at and above 10,000 if it is available. At night,
you can notice the difference as low as 5,000 feet.

If you start using O2, leave it on until you're back to a
lower altitude, blood saturation drops very quickly and a
quick shot will bring you UP but it doesn't last unless you
stay on the O2. You can set the O2 regulator to deliver the
required amount of oxygen to maintain the blood at close to
100%, but you must keep it at 95% to stay fully alert. If
you have the available supply, everybody should use O2 at
10-12,000 or above.

The rules for Part 91 are not as tight as Part 135. Make
sure that you explain how to use and why to your passengers
and do a check to be sure everybody is getting their O2
[hoses get kinked, masks not on or sealed, tank empty.]
BTW, an O2 tank should never be run below 100 PSI, keeps all
the gas inside dry and rust free.



--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| You can have them use O2 when above 15,000 feet, they'll
be
| quieter without it.
|
| My concern had to do with the other side effects of lower
O2 in their
| blood, as in dizziness, nausea, irritability, etc.
|
|
| --
| Peter

My boys have never had problems with the O2. My youngest usually trys
to avoid using it. The reason to have them wear O2 is to prevent head
aches, etc. However, most people just fall asleep, so its not an issue.

The cool thing is that its easy to calculate kids O2. Their canualas
are regular (not oxy-savers) so they use twice as much O2. However,
their bodys are smaller so they use 1/2 the O2. It all equals out in
the end, I just set the system to give them the same amount of O2 I'm
using. If they start to bug each other, I just turn their O2 down and
they fall asleep. I've talked to C-5 drivers that do the same when
Marines are sitting in the back.

-Robert (living in the Sierras).

In article . com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

My boys have never had problems with the O2. My youngest usually trys
to avoid using it. The reason to have them wear O2 is to prevent head
aches, etc. However, most people just fall asleep, so its not an issue.

The cool thing is that its easy to calculate kids O2. Their canualas
are regular (not oxy-savers) so they use twice as much O2. However,
their bodys are smaller so they use 1/2 the O2. It all equals out in
the end, I just set the system to give them the same amount of O2 I'm
using. If they start to bug each other, I just turn their O2 down and
they fall asleep. I've talked to C-5 drivers that do the same when
Marines are sitting in the back.

Corporate piltos do the same thing when the bosses in the back are drunk.

"john smith" wrote

Corporate piltos do the same thing when the bosses in the back are drunk.

So do commercial airline pilots, or they did a couple decades ago.

My dad was on a redeye to Germany, and trying to get some paperwork done,
and started getting sleepy. He had some very sensitive air pressure
measuring equipment, used in his line of work, and found they had raised the
cabin altitude, quite a bit. He told a stew to tell the captain to turn the
pressure back up; long to short, she said he didn't, he insisted, and
strangely enough, the pressure went back to normal.
--
Jim in NC

Peter R. wrote:
Does anyone have any experience using supplemental O2 with children ages
six and eight? Can this be done successfully (assuming the children are
very good at following directions)?


I can't remember ever wearing oxygen in an airplane but I grew up as an Air
Force Brat. When I was that age, I'm sure I would have found wearing oxygen to
be quite an adventure. You have to remember I was raised on stuff like Col.
Steve Canyon, etc....



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

"Peter R." wrote in message
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Does anyone have any experience using supplemental O2 with children ages
six and eight? Can this be done successfully (assuming the children are
very good at following directions)?

Kids, following directions? ROTFLMAO !!!

Keep the O2 for yourself, that way the kids will fall asleep... Unless you
enjoy them asking, "Are we there, yet?" every 5 minutes...

Does anyone have any experience using supplemental O2 with children ages
six and eight? Can this be done successfully (assuming the children are
very good at following directions)?

Kids, following directions? ROTFLMAO !!!
Keep the O2 for yourself, that way the kids will fall asleep... Unless you
enjoy them asking, "Are we there, yet?" every 5 minutes...

Just watch for blue fingernails.