TSA certified CFIs

Has anyone gone to the trouble of getting TSA certified to provide
foreign flight training on this list? I have my appointment with the
FSDO tomorrow morning. They told me to bring my birth certificate to
prove my U.S. citizenship along with my medical and CFI certificate (I
would think they would have that). I'm not sure what to expect. At one
point I had a Canadian student I thought I needed this for but then
realized he was grandfathered .

-Robert

Robert M. Gary wrote:
Has anyone gone to the trouble of getting TSA certified to provide
foreign flight training on this list?

I have not, of course, but let me know how it turns out. I will
probably do that when I get back.

All of the instructors at my facility did the TSA training and
"certified" for annual records. We only have a few foreign students but
the boss wanted to get us all under the umbrella. The "training" course
is laughable and simply means you keep bucking it up a level to your
supervisor!!
Not a big deal at all but I resent having to do the paperwork for TSA
and the record keeping that is required "under penalty of law..." Got
it shoved in our faces and stuffed down our throats.
National Identity Card coming next and I have been predicting that for
20 years now. Some called me nuts and worse and that isn't the end of
my predictions either. Wish I was wrong but my batting average on these
things is nearly perfect to this point.
Rocky

Every active CFI is required to have taken the TSA course.
It is also recommended that inactive CFIs also take the
course. At flight schools all persons who will deal with
students, from the receptionist to the mechanics take the
training and have the school record to prove it.
All new flight students must prove USA citizenship and that
must be recorded. Non-citizens must pass a TSA/HS
background check before training.

AOPA Online - AOPA's Guide to TSA's Alien Flight Training
.... CFIs: Stay up to date on how the TSA's alien flight
training/ ... Flight Training. The TSA rule initially
defined "flight training" as instruction received ...
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AOPA Online - Regulatory Brief -- TSA Flight Training
Security Rule The Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association
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TSA | Transportation Security Administration | Flight School
.... If you are unable to complete the training on-line and
would like a FSSA-CD mailed to you, e-mail your name and
shipping address to the TSA Flight School ...
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Flight ... As a prerequisite to flight training, non-US
citizens must provide to TSA fingerprints, biographical
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--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P


"Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote in message
oups.com...

| All of the instructors at my facility did the TSA training
and
| "certified" for annual records. We only have a few foreign
students but
| the boss wanted to get us all under the umbrella. The
"training" course
| is laughable and simply means you keep bucking it up a
level to your
| supervisor!!
| Not a big deal at all but I resent having to do the
paperwork for TSA
| and the record keeping that is required "under penalty of
law..." Got
| it shoved in our faces and stuffed down our throats.
| National Identity Card coming next and I have been
predicting that for
| 20 years now. Some called me nuts and worse and that isn't
the end of
| my predictions either. Wish I was wrong but my batting
average on these
| things is nearly perfect to this point.
| Rocky
|

Jim Macklin wrote:
Every active CFI is required to have taken the TSA course.
It is also recommended that inactive CFIs also take the
course. At flight schools all persons who will deal with
students, from the receptionist to the mechanics take the
training and have the school record to prove it.
All new flight students must prove USA citizenship and that
must be recorded. Non-citizens must pass a TSA/HS
background check before training.

AOPA Online - AOPA's Guide to TSA's Alien Flight Training
... CFIs: Stay up to date on how the TSA's alien flight
training/ ... Flight Training. The TSA rule initially
defined "flight training" as instruction received ...

Oh, that training. I already took that. I thought he was talking about
something else.

What we really need is better graphics, a 'shooter' game interface
where we blow terrorists off the tarmac. :-)

Google for "Bin Laden liquor store"
http://www.henry.martinez.net/games/binladenliquors/




"cjcampbell" wrote in
message
oups.com...
|
| Jim Macklin wrote:
| Every active CFI is required to have taken the TSA
course.
| It is also recommended that inactive CFIs also take the
| course. At flight schools all persons who will deal
with
| students, from the receptionist to the mechanics take
the
| training and have the school record to prove it.
| All new flight students must prove USA citizenship and
that
| must be recorded. Non-citizens must pass a TSA/HS
| background check before training.
|
| AOPA Online - AOPA's Guide to TSA's Alien Flight
Training
| ... CFIs: Stay up to date on how the TSA's alien flight
| training/ ... Flight Training. The TSA rule initially
| defined "flight training" as instruction received ...
|
| Oh, that training. I already took that. I thought he was
talking about
| something else.
|
| What we really need is better graphics, a 'shooter' game
interface
| where we blow terrorists off the tarmac. :-)
|

Oh, that training. I already took that. I thought he was talking about
something else.

Yes, I am. I applied for the TSA CFI account which allows me to train
foreign students. That is different than the TSA certificate all CFIs
are requied to have. If you are a regular CFI who only took the basic
TSA test you can only teach U.S. citizens.

-Robert

Every active CFI is required to have taken the TSA course.
It is also recommended that inactive CFIs also take the
course.

Not true, glider only CFIs are not required to take the course, and are not
required to check student credentials for nationality.

BT

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message news:8Pvag.21759$ZW3.11985@dukeread04...
Every active CFI is required to have taken the TSA course.
It is also recommended that inactive CFIs also take the
course. At flight schools all persons who will deal with
students, from the receptionist to the mechanics take the
training and have the school record to prove it.
All new flight students must prove USA citizenship and that
must be recorded. Non-citizens must pass a TSA/HS
background check before training.



How is this handled for independent CFIs?

How is this handled for independent CFIs?

Just the independant CFI must take the test. It actually all works for
ind CFIs its just more confusing. Also, if a student wants to fly with
2 independant CFIs he needs to do his entire background check twice
(once for each and every independant CFI he flys with)