samll plane noise

The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise. I can't go outside
without hearing the droneing sound. From afar, it is like some sort
of low frequency noise, as the plane gets closer, it is very
irritating.

The FAA should regulate the noise levels of these planes before
they become a real nusance, and private aircraft will be completly
banned.

Pilots are already regulated by the FAA. See 91.303 for acrobatic
operation, and other sections that set altitude minimums. There are
also areas where flight is restricted. So you might try to get the
altitudes raised or a restricted zone put around your house. Lots of luck.


daffy wrote:
The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise. I can't go outside
without hearing the droneing sound. From afar, it is like some sort
of low frequency noise, as the plane gets closer, it is very
irritating.

The FAA should regulate the noise levels of these planes before
they become a real nusance, and private aircraft will be completly
banned.

There are noise abatement regulations in effect right now where they are
warranted. Motorcycles make more noise than prop airplanes, and they are far
more numerous and travel much nearer to people on the ground.

Bob Gardner

"daffy" wrote in message
oups.com...
The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise. I can't go outside
without hearing the droneing sound. From afar, it is like some sort
of low frequency noise, as the plane gets closer, it is very
irritating.

The FAA should regulate the noise levels of these planes before
they become a real nusance, and private aircraft will be completly
banned.

Did this person post the same message a few months ago?

personally, I consider this trolling.

by "Bob Gardner" Aug 10, 2006 at 01:50 PM


There are noise abatement regulations in effect right now where they are
warranted. Motorcycles make more noise than prop airplanes, and they are
far
more numerous and travel much nearer to people on the ground.

Bob Gardner

Daffy: Don't be deterred by the same bs, canned, nonsense. Noise
statutes exist in most communities, except for small planes.

For GA, there is no enforcement whatsoever. Go to the press, the
politicians, and ORGANIZE other victims. Get the pilots to be socially
responsible, since they don't care and think (incorrectly) that the FAA
(unenforced) regs protect them.

Check state and local statutes. You may be able to file a nuisance suit.

Isn't this how Skylune started?



"daffy" wrote in message
oups.com...
The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise. I can't go outside
without hearing the droneing sound. From afar, it is like some sort
of low frequency noise, as the plane gets closer, it is very
irritating.

The FAA should regulate the noise levels of these planes before
they become a real nusance, and private aircraft will be completly
banned.

Noise is only one of the issues that i have with the current state of GA.


But, times they are a changin...

On 10 Aug 2006 13:28:39 -0700, "daffy"
wrote in .com:

The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise.

Here's the answer you got to the same question last January:

From: Don Tuite
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting
Subject: Planes drone out MLK celebration
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:51:33 GMT

On 17 Jan 2006 10:18:20 -0800, "daffy"
wrote:

First, the city we are talking about is Newark, not Norwalk.

Second, the small plane (GA) traffic is NON-STOP, where
a new plane passes overhead every 60 seconds or so
everyday, so this plane noise was not done delibertly
during the ML King celebration.

It was hard to hear the speaker while planes flew above
the event.

Yes, the noise lasts only 20 seconds, and if only a few planes
per hour were out, it wouldn't be an issue, but the airspace
above Newark is a pilots fancy.

This complaint makes sense. Planes heading for San Carlos, Palo
Alto, Reid Hillview, Hayward, and to some extent, Oakland tend to
exit the Livermore valley via the Sunol gap. The gravel ponds at
Niles are sort of a waypoint, and Lake Elizabeth marks a step
transition in the base of the San Francisco class B, so it's
another airplane magnet. Going west or north, the reporting point
for San Carlos is the Coyote Hills, which is a little north of the
Dumbarton Bridge tollboth. Inbound Palo Alto pilots report the
Nummi plant or the salt pile, a little to the south. I'm not sure
where the Hayward reporting point is from the south, but it's got
to be right around there. A little further south and you're in San
Jose's airspace. That actually protects Milpitas because flying
east of 680 puts you out of San Jose airspace.

The result is that Newark and Fremont take it in the shorts.

I don't have a solution, but the poster is by no means talking
through his hat.

Well, I do know one thing that makes logistical sense. Move Palo
Alto GA and San Jose freight to Moffet.

Don

I thought it was time to complain again.

Larry Dighera wrote:
On 10 Aug 2006 13:28:39 -0700, "daffy"
wrote in .com:

The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise.

Here's the answer you got to the same question last January:

From: Don Tuite
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting
Subject: Planes drone out MLK celebration
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:51:33 GMT

On 17 Jan 2006 10:18:20 -0800, "daffy"
wrote:

First, the city we are talking about is Newark, not Norwalk.

Second, the small plane (GA) traffic is NON-STOP, where
a new plane passes overhead every 60 seconds or so
everyday, so this plane noise was not done delibertly
during the ML King celebration.

It was hard to hear the speaker while planes flew above
the event.

Yes, the noise lasts only 20 seconds, and if only a few planes
per hour were out, it wouldn't be an issue, but the airspace
above Newark is a pilots fancy.

This complaint makes sense. Planes heading for San Carlos, Palo
Alto, Reid Hillview, Hayward, and to some extent, Oakland tend to
exit the Livermore valley via the Sunol gap. The gravel ponds at
Niles are sort of a waypoint, and Lake Elizabeth marks a step
transition in the base of the San Francisco class B, so it's
another airplane magnet. Going west or north, the reporting point
for San Carlos is the Coyote Hills, which is a little north of the
Dumbarton Bridge tollboth. Inbound Palo Alto pilots report the
Nummi plant or the salt pile, a little to the south. I'm not sure
where the Hayward reporting point is from the south, but it's got
to be right around there. A little further south and you're in San
Jose's airspace. That actually protects Milpitas because flying
east of 680 puts you out of San Jose airspace.

The result is that Newark and Fremont take it in the shorts.

I don't have a solution, but the poster is by no means talking
through his hat.

Well, I do know one thing that makes logistical sense. Move Palo
Alto GA and San Jose freight to Moffet.

Don

Please, go to your nearest small airport and get to know some people
there, pilots and people in the various businesses supporting general
aviation. Learn from them about what they do and why, and about their
attitudes towards you and about what they do. Then tell us what you
learned.

TIA for being truly interested in subjects you wish to discuss.

george