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The most recent note to members from the board answers some questions but raises many more.
there seem to be two operative theories being investigated: 1. incompetence then panic resulted in the cfo and the ED knowingly conspiring to withhold information and to actually present false reports. Non payment of obligations was due to a shortfall in available cash and they incompetently choose to hide the situation rather than to cut costs. 2. The money was misappropriated (stolen) and disappeared into someones pocket. This was covered up for years by falsifying financials. the note states " Your first letter reported that the CFAO claimed his reason for making a unilateral decision not to pay withholding taxes was because of "...a lack of available cash on hand..." Does the Executive Committee believe this? No. This is why a thorough investigation is underway. " I guess the board feels #2 is the way things are headed. We have yet to hear about the status of funds that are sequestered in restricted and unrestricted special accounts for the purpose of furthering special programs. These accounts are not consolidated in the general financial reporting. The first note suggested that these accounts could be a source of emergency funding to pay back taxes. the note goes on" SSA Bylaws require a yearly audit. When was this last accomplished? Our accountants accomplished the last audit on October 31, 2002. Why has an audit (or outside financial review) not been done since 2002? The SSA hired its first CFAO during 2002. In retrospect, this may have led to a false sense of security on the part of the Board. Over the ensuing years, the Board decided not to spend funds on audits, instead allocating money on other tasks felt necessary to grow the Society. In retrospect, this was obviously "penny wise, and pound foolish." A full audit by an outside party is planned. " The board has now public stated that it acted in direct violation of the formal bylaws of the organization. To the extent that the board willfully and knowingly took an action that was outside the bounds of its authority, it is probably liable for damages on a personal level. Organizations often have insurance policies to protect shareholders/members from illegal acts by officers/boards. I wonder if SSA has such coverage? Of course, the insurance company would, after paying, go after the deep pockets of any involved. Likewise, the accountants probably have E&O insurance. OK here is the point... The SSA needs to file for bankruptcy and to be reorganized. A master needs to be appointed by the court to investigate and to vigorously pursue any and all avenues to recapture the lost funds if in fact they were stolen and if in fact that theft was facilitated by an illegal action by the board. To have the board oversee the investigation is a basic conflict of interest and may result in one avenue of recourse being ignored. I simply cannot see the board voting to sue itself individually or as a group. it is a shame that the decision, taken in 2003, not to have an audit as required by the bylaws, is going to come back to haunt those who made the decision. we have already seen what happens when the fox is left to guard the henhouse.. |
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![]() */SSA Bylaws require a yearly audit. When was this last accomplished? /* **Our accountants accomplished the last audit on October 31, 2002. */Why has an audit (or outside financial review) not been done since 2002? /* **The SSA hired its first CFAO during 2002. In retrospect, this may have led to a false sense of security on the part of the Board. Over the ensuing years, the Board decided not to spend funds on audits, instead allocating money on other tasks felt necessary to grow the Society. In retrospect, this was obviously “penny wise, and pound foolish.” A full audit by an outside party is planned. " The tone of this part of the SSA answer is not encouraging. From reading this, you would think that the decision not to follow the bylaws was a business decision like any other -- "the Board decided not to spend money on audits". In fact, however, the Board was required by law to follow the bylaws, and it intentionally decided not to do so. It did not have the discretion to decide whether or not to spend money on audits, so the failure to do annual audits was not merely a matter of "penny wise, and pound foolish." Either the Board still does not understand this, or it is madly spinning the facts. Perhaps this language was written by lawyers, who are professional fact spinners, but why didn't anyone on the Board put their foot down and say "Hey, we have to be honest with our members?" The board has now public stated that it acted in direct violation of the formal bylaws of the organization. To the extent that the board willfully and knowingly took an action that was outside the bounds of its authority, it is probably liable for damages on a personal level. |
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5-BG wrote:
The most recent note to members from the board answers some questions but raises many more. there seem to be two operative theories being investigated: 1. incompetence then panic resulted in the cfo and the ED knowingly conspiring to withhold information and to actually present false reports. Non payment of obligations was due to a shortfall in available cash and they incompetently choose to hide the situation rather than to cut costs. 2. The money was misappropriated (stolen) and disappeared into someones pocket. This was covered up for years by falsifying financials. the note states " Your first letter reported that the CFAO claimed his reason for making a unilateral decision not to pay withholding taxes was because of "...a lack of available cash on hand..." Does the Executive Committee believe this? No. This is why a thorough investigation is underway. " I guess the board feels #2 is the way things are headed. We have yet to hear about the status of funds that are sequestered in restricted and unrestricted special accounts for the purpose of furthering special programs. These accounts are not consolidated in the general financial reporting. The first note suggested that these accounts could be a source of emergency funding to pay back taxes. the note goes on" SSA Bylaws require a yearly audit. When was this last accomplished? Our accountants accomplished the last audit on October 31, 2002. Why has an audit (or outside financial review) not been done since 2002? The SSA hired its first CFAO during 2002. In retrospect, this may have led to a false sense of security on the part of the Board. Over the ensuing years, the Board decided not to spend funds on audits, instead allocating money on other tasks felt necessary to grow the Society. In retrospect, this was obviously "penny wise, and pound foolish." A full audit by an outside party is planned. " The board has now public stated that it acted in direct violation of the formal bylaws of the organization. To the extent that the board willfully and knowingly took an action that was outside the bounds of its authority, it is probably liable for damages on a personal level. Organizations often have insurance policies to protect shareholders/members from illegal acts by officers/boards. I wonder if SSA has such coverage? Of course, the insurance company would, after paying, go after the deep pockets of any involved. Likewise, the accountants probably have E&O insurance. OK here is the point... The SSA needs to file for bankruptcy and to be reorganized. A master needs to be appointed by the court to investigate and to vigorously pursue any and all avenues to recapture the lost funds if in fact they were stolen and if in fact that theft was facilitated by an illegal action by the board. To have the board oversee the investigation is a basic conflict of interest and may result in one avenue of recourse being ignored. I simply cannot see the board voting to sue itself individually or as a group. it is a shame that the decision, taken in 2003, not to have an audit as required by the bylaws, is going to come back to haunt those who made the decision. we have already seen what happens when the fox is left to guard the henhouse.. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6D333.BC529780 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Google-AttachSize: 4413 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=#ffffff DIVFONT face=Arial The most recent note to members from the board answers some questions but raises many more./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial/FONT /DIV DIVFONT face=Arial there seem to be two operative theories being investigated:/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial1. incompetence then panic resulted in the cfo and the ED knowingly conspiring to withhold information and to actually present false reports. Non payment of obligations was due to a shortfall in available cash and they incompetently choose to hide the situation rather than to cut costs./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial2. The money was misappropriated (stolen) and disappeared into someones pocket. This was covered up for years by falsifying financials./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial/FONT /DIV DIVFONT face=Arial the note states " PEMSTRONGYour first letter reported that the CFAO claimed his reason for making a unilateral decision not to pay withholding taxes was because of "...a lack of available cash on hand..." Does the Executive Committee believe this?/STRONG/EM/P PSTRONG/STRONGNo. This is why a thorough investigation is underway. "/P P I guess the board feels #2 is the way things are headed./P P /P P We have yet to hear about the status of funds that are sequestered in restricted and unrestricted special accounts for the purpose of furthering special programs. These accounts are not consolidated in the general financial reporting. The first note suggested that these accounts could be a source of emergency funding to pay back taxes. /P P the note goes on"/P PSTRONGEMSSA Bylaws require a yearly audit. When was this last accomplished? /EM/STRONG/P PSTRONG/STRONGOur accountants accomplished the last audit on October 31, 2002. /P PSTRONGEMWhy has an audit (or outside financial review) not been done since 2002? /EM/STRONG/P PSTRONG/STRONGThe SSA hired its first CFAO during 2002. In retrospect, this may have led to a false sense of security on the part of the Board. Over the ensuing years, the Board decided not to spend funds on audits, instead allocating money on other tasks felt necessary to grow the Society. In retrospect, this was obviously "penny wise, and pound foolish." A full audit by an outside party is planned. "/P P /P P The board has now public stated that it acted in direct violation of the formal bylaws of the organization. To the extent that the board willfully and knowingly took an action that was outside the bounds of its authority, it is probably liable for damages on a personal level. /P P Organizations often have insurance policies to protect shareholders/members from illegal acts by officers/boards. I wonder if SSA has such coverage? Of course, the insurance company would, after paying, go after the deep pockets of any involved./P P Likewise, the accountants probably have E&O insurance. /P P /P P OK here is the point... The SSA needs to file for bankruptcy and to be reorganized. A master needs to be appointed by the court to investigate and to vigorously pursue any and all avenues to recapture the lost funds if in fact they were stolen and if in fact that theft was facilitated by an illegal action by the board. To have the board oversee the investigation is a basic conflict of interest and may result in one avenue of recourse being ignored. I simply cannot see the board voting to sue itself individually or as a group. /P P it is a shame that the decision, taken in 2003, not to have an audit as required by the bylaws, is going to come back to haunt those who made the decision. /P P /P P we have already seen what happens when the fox is left to guard the henhouse.. /FONT/P/DIV/BODY/HTML ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6D333.BC529780-- 5bg, Well put.I feel that if Dennis Wright and the whole board down through the regional level does not resign, they are just greedy (or incompetent) and they do not have the best interests of soaring or the SSA in mind. |
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FWIW, and I don't know precisely how this applies to non-profits, but in
the corporate world, corporate officers are PERSONALLY LIABLE for payroll taxes. Not even BK will get you out of them. Bob alice wrote: 5-BG wrote: The most recent note to members from the board answers some questions but raises many more. there seem to be two operative theories being investigated: 1. incompetence then panic resulted in the cfo and the ED knowingly conspiring to withhold information and to actually present false reports. Non payment of obligations was due to a shortfall in available cash and they incompetently choose to hide the situation rather than to cut costs. 2. The money was misappropriated (stolen) and disappeared into someones pocket. This was covered up for years by falsifying financials. the note states " Your first letter reported that the CFAO claimed his reason for making a unilateral decision not to pay withholding taxes was because of "...a lack of available cash on hand..." Does the Executive Committee believe this? No. This is why a thorough investigation is underway. " I guess the board feels #2 is the way things are headed. We have yet to hear about the status of funds that are sequestered in restricted and unrestricted special accounts for the purpose of furthering special programs. These accounts are not consolidated in the general financial reporting. The first note suggested that these accounts could be a source of emergency funding to pay back taxes. the note goes on" SSA Bylaws require a yearly audit. When was this last accomplished? Our accountants accomplished the last audit on October 31, 2002. Why has an audit (or outside financial review) not been done since 2002? The SSA hired its first CFAO during 2002. In retrospect, this may have led to a false sense of security on the part of the Board. Over the ensuing years, the Board decided not to spend funds on audits, instead allocating money on other tasks felt necessary to grow the Society. In retrospect, this was obviously "penny wise, and pound foolish." A full audit by an outside party is planned. " The board has now public stated that it acted in direct violation of the formal bylaws of the organization. To the extent that the board willfully and knowingly took an action that was outside the bounds of its authority, it is probably liable for damages on a personal level. Organizations often have insurance policies to protect shareholders/members from illegal acts by officers/boards. I wonder if SSA has such coverage? Of course, the insurance company would, after paying, go after the deep pockets of any involved. Likewise, the accountants probably have E&O insurance. OK here is the point... The SSA needs to file for bankruptcy and to be reorganized. A master needs to be appointed by the court to investigate and to vigorously pursue any and all avenues to recapture the lost funds if in fact they were stolen and if in fact that theft was facilitated by an illegal action by the board. To have the board oversee the investigation is a basic conflict of interest and may result in one avenue of recourse being ignored. I simply cannot see the board voting to sue itself individually or as a group. it is a shame that the decision, taken in 2003, not to have an audit as required by the bylaws, is going to come back to haunt those who made the decision. we have already seen what happens when the fox is left to guard the henhouse.. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6D333.BC529780 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Google-AttachSize: 4413 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=#ffffff DIVFONT face=Arial The most recent note to members from the board answers some questions but raises many more./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial/FONT /DIV DIVFONT face=Arial there seem to be two operative theories being investigated:/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial1. incompetence then panic resulted in the cfo and the ED knowingly conspiring to withhold information and to actually present false reports. Non payment of obligations was due to a shortfall in available cash and they incompetently choose to hide the situation rather than to cut costs./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial2. The money was misappropriated (stolen) and disappeared into someones pocket. This was covered up for years by falsifying financials./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial/FONT /DIV DIVFONT face=Arial the note states " PEMSTRONGYour first letter reported that the CFAO claimed his reason for making a unilateral decision not to pay withholding taxes was because of "...a lack of available cash on hand..." Does the Executive Committee believe this?/STRONG/EM/P PSTRONG/STRONGNo. This is why a thorough investigation is underway. "/P P I guess the board feels #2 is the way things are headed./P P /P P We have yet to hear about the status of funds that are sequestered in restricted and unrestricted special accounts for the purpose of furthering special programs. These accounts are not consolidated in the general financial reporting. The first note suggested that these accounts could be a source of emergency funding to pay back taxes. /P P the note goes on"/P PSTRONGEMSSA Bylaws require a yearly audit. When was this last accomplished? /EM/STRONG/P PSTRONG/STRONGOur accountants accomplished the last audit on October 31, 2002. /P PSTRONGEMWhy has an audit (or outside financial review) not been done since 2002? /EM/STRONG/P PSTRONG/STRONGThe SSA hired its first CFAO during 2002. In retrospect, this may have led to a false sense of security on the part of the Board. Over the ensuing years, the Board decided not to spend funds on audits, instead allocating money on other tasks felt necessary to grow the Society. In retrospect, this was obviously "penny wise, and pound foolish." A full audit by an outside party is planned. "/P P /P P The board has now public stated that it acted in direct violation of the formal bylaws of the organization. To the extent that the board willfully and knowingly took an action that was outside the bounds of its authority, it is probably liable for damages on a personal level. /P P Organizations often have insurance policies to protect shareholders/members from illegal acts by officers/boards. I wonder if SSA has such coverage? Of course, the insurance company would, after paying, go after the deep pockets of any involved./P P Likewise, the accountants probably have E&O insurance. /P P /P P OK here is the point... The SSA needs to file for bankruptcy and to be reorganized. A master needs to be appointed by the court to investigate and to vigorously pursue any and all avenues to recapture the lost funds if in fact they were stolen and if in fact that theft was facilitated by an illegal action by the board. To have the board oversee the investigation is a basic conflict of interest and may result in one avenue of recourse being ignored. I simply cannot see the board voting to sue itself individually or as a group. /P P it is a shame that the decision, taken in 2003, not to have an audit as required by the bylaws, is going to come back to haunt those who made the decision. /P P /P P we have already seen what happens when the fox is left to guard the henhouse.. /FONT/P/DIV/BODY/HTML ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6D333.BC529780-- 5bg, Well put.I feel that if Dennis Wright and the whole board down through the regional level does not resign, they are just greedy (or incompetent) and they do not have the best interests of soaring or the SSA in mind. |
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bob;
you are right in terms of officers being responsible.. but I think that this is triggered ONLY AFTER the assets of the organization are liquidated and then the shortfall becomes a personal liability. If i am correct, then the remaining assets of the ssa would be liquidated, payments made to govt and any shortfall would be assessed against those officers. SOMEONE in this mess is insured.. If only one party among the lot is insured, that party becomes the deep pocket and pays. I suspect that the accountants are insured and that they will be the deep pocket. BUT this,once again raises the issue of conflict of interests.. how in the world can a firm do an impartial investigation that could conceivably be used against them in a claim??? The very act of doing a forenisic analysis, or even of filing late the back reports is an admission that they did not vigorously do their job in a manner consistant with professional requirements.. especially post enron. The board needs to stop digging deeper the hole that they are in. If we have learned anything at all from events in Washington, the claims of COVERUP are often worse than the original sin. The board should recognize this at the earliest possible moment and get a master involved so as to avoid even the appearance of coverup. Right now I even question the wisdom of the advice being offered by the outside attorney hired by the board.. JUST WHO IS THE CLIENT??? the board or the members??? If the advice to the board is to "manage the problem" that is, imho, bad advice. The board is digging itself in deeper. This is a no win situation for them as individuals or as a group. Even assuming a well intentioned desire to determine the extent of the problem and then to fix it prior to resigning, IT IS BAD JUDGEMENT for them to remain involved. Knowingly choosing to ignore the bylaws is the issue that puts them at risk and that compromises their ability to oversee an objective investigation. The outside attorney needs to work for a party who represents the members and that has no personal interest in the outcome. The wording of each note is obviously vetted by the attorney. Again, the question arises.. WHO IS THE CLIENT.. "Robert Backer" wrote in message news:QjlMg.18908$RD.8494@fed1read08... FWIW, and I don't know precisely how this applies to non-profits, but in the corporate world, corporate officers are PERSONALLY LIABLE for payroll taxes. Not even BK will get you out of them. Bob alice wrote: 5-BG wrote: The most recent note to members from the board answers some questions but raises many more. there seem to be two operative theories being investigated: 1. incompetence then panic resulted in the cfo and the ED knowingly conspiring to withhold information and to actually present false reports. Non payment of obligations was due to a shortfall in available cash and they incompetently choose to hide the situation rather than to cut costs. 2. The money was misappropriated (stolen) and disappeared into someones pocket. This was covered up for years by falsifying financials. the note states " Your first letter reported that the CFAO claimed his reason for making a unilateral decision not to pay withholding taxes was because of "...a lack of available cash on hand..." Does the Executive Committee believe this? No. This is why a thorough investigation is underway. " I guess the board feels #2 is the way things are headed. We have yet to hear about the status of funds that are sequestered in restricted and unrestricted special accounts for the purpose of furthering special programs. These accounts are not consolidated in the general financial reporting. The first note suggested that these accounts could be a source of emergency funding to pay back taxes. the note goes on" SSA Bylaws require a yearly audit. When was this last accomplished? Our accountants accomplished the last audit on October 31, 2002. Why has an audit (or outside financial review) not been done since 2002? The SSA hired its first CFAO during 2002. In retrospect, this may have led to a false sense of security on the part of the Board. Over the ensuing years, the Board decided not to spend funds on audits, instead allocating money on other tasks felt necessary to grow the Society. In retrospect, this was obviously "penny wise, and pound foolish." A full audit by an outside party is planned. " The board has now public stated that it acted in direct violation of the formal bylaws of the organization. To the extent that the board willfully and knowingly took an action that was outside the bounds of its authority, it is probably liable for damages on a personal level. Organizations often have insurance policies to protect shareholders/members from illegal acts by officers/boards. I wonder if SSA has such coverage? Of course, the insurance company would, after paying, go after the deep pockets of any involved. Likewise, the accountants probably have E&O insurance. OK here is the point... The SSA needs to file for bankruptcy and to be reorganized. A master needs to be appointed by the court to investigate and to vigorously pursue any and all avenues to recapture the lost funds if in fact they were stolen and if in fact that theft was facilitated by an illegal action by the board. To have the board oversee the investigation is a basic conflict of interest and may result in one avenue of recourse being ignored. I simply cannot see the board voting to sue itself individually or as a group. it is a shame that the decision, taken in 2003, not to have an audit as required by the bylaws, is going to come back to haunt those who made the decision. we have already seen what happens when the fox is left to guard the henhouse.. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6D333.BC529780 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Google-AttachSize: 4413 !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2963" name=GENERATOR STYLE/STYLE /HEAD BODY bgColor=#ffffff DIVFONT face=Arial The most recent note to members from the board answers some questions but raises many more./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial/FONT /DIV DIVFONT face=Arial there seem to be two operative theories being investigated:/FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial1. incompetence then panic resulted in the cfo and the ED knowingly conspiring to withhold information and to actually present false reports. Non payment of obligations was due to a shortfall in available cash and they incompetently choose to hide the situation rather than to cut costs./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial2. The money was misappropriated (stolen) and disappeared into someones pocket. This was covered up for years by falsifying financials./FONT/DIV DIVFONT face=Arial/FONT /DIV DIVFONT face=Arial the note states " PEMSTRONGYour first letter reported that the CFAO claimed his reason for making a unilateral decision not to pay withholding taxes was because of "...a lack of available cash on hand..." Does the Executive Committee believe this?/STRONG/EM/P PSTRONG/STRONGNo. This is why a thorough investigation is underway. "/P P I guess the board feels #2 is the way things are headed./P P /P P We have yet to hear about the status of funds that are sequestered in restricted and unrestricted special accounts for the purpose of furthering special programs. These accounts are not consolidated in the general financial reporting. The first note suggested that these accounts could be a source of emergency funding to pay back taxes. /P P the note goes on"/P PSTRONGEMSSA Bylaws require a yearly audit. When was this last accomplished? /EM/STRONG/P PSTRONG/STRONGOur accountants accomplished the last audit on October 31, 2002. /P PSTRONGEMWhy has an audit (or outside financial review) not been done since 2002? /EM/STRONG/P PSTRONG/STRONGThe SSA hired its first CFAO during 2002. In retrospect, this may have led to a false sense of security on the part of the Board. Over the ensuing years, the Board decided not to spend funds on audits, instead allocating money on other tasks felt necessary to grow the Society. In retrospect, this was obviously "penny wise, and pound foolish." A full audit by an outside party is planned. "/P P /P P The board has now public stated that it acted in direct violation of the formal bylaws of the organization. To the extent that the board willfully and knowingly took an action that was outside the bounds of its authority, it is probably liable for damages on a personal level. /P P Organizations often have insurance policies to protect shareholders/members from illegal acts by officers/boards. I wonder if SSA has such coverage? Of course, the insurance company would, after paying, go after the deep pockets of any involved./P P Likewise, the accountants probably have E&O insurance. /P P /P P OK here is the point... The SSA needs to file for bankruptcy and to be reorganized. A master needs to be appointed by the court to investigate and to vigorously pursue any and all avenues to recapture the lost funds if in fact they were stolen and if in fact that theft was facilitated by an illegal action by the board. To have the board oversee the investigation is a basic conflict of interest and may result in one avenue of recourse being ignored. I simply cannot see the board voting to sue itself individually or as a group. /P P it is a shame that the decision, taken in 2003, not to have an audit as required by the bylaws, is going to come back to haunt those who made the decision. /P P /P P we have already seen what happens when the fox is left to guard the henhouse.. /FONT/P/DIV/BODY/HTML ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C6D333.BC529780-- 5bg, Well put.I feel that if Dennis Wright and the whole board down through the regional level does not resign, they are just greedy (or incompetent) and they do not have the best interests of soaring or the SSA in mind. |
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LET US START RIGHT HERE AND NOW!
I do pledge my former dues amount ($65) for a newly formed Soaring Association. We have had constitutional conventions in this country before and can do it again. The only requirement is for the current group--ALL of them down to whoever cleans the office in NM--need to go. Our former SSA was driven off the cliff over many, many years. Most of the directors and volunteers names have not changed since I took my first glider flight in 1979. Those that got us here are not the ones to make it better. Disgusted, Terry Claussen FAA Designated Flight Instructor Examiner Glider Former SSAI# 922214 |
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![]() Terry wrote: LET US START RIGHT HERE AND NOW! Our former SSA was driven off the cliff over many, many years. Most of the directors and volunteers names have not changed since I took my first glider flight in 1979. Those that got us here are not the ones to make it better. Disgusted, Terry Claussen FAA Designated Flight Instructor Examiner Glider Former SSAI# 922214 Hey Terry, First, let me say that the current situation makes me sick. It makes me sick because a) the events are in and of themselves disgusting and because b) the SSA Board members who I know are hard-working, dedicated, and innovative. Before you fire back, let's look at the facts in your statement: "Most of the directors and volunteers (sic) names have not changed since I took my first glider flight in 1979. " I've been a member since 1984. I can hardly find one name on the current list of directors who goes back that far. So, giving you a little poetic license, let's go back 10 years. From the 1996 Board Meeting in Kansas City, I did a little look-see at the list of 20 Regional Directors then vs. now. Wanna guess how many are the same? Hint: It's less than 10. Need a second hint: It's less than 5. Third hint: it's an even number. That's right, exactly 4 of the Regional Directors have a tenure going back even 10 years. So, 80% of the Board is new within that period. At least a third of the Board goes back less than 5 years from what I was able to figure. A couple of other interesting observations: - In recent elections, a significant percentage of Directors ran unopposed. So, our members must not be very disatisfied with the Board, otherwise they would have stepped up and run for office themselves, right? - There is currently at least 1 position vacant. Surprising given the glamor and wealth associated with the position. - There are 6 slots which expire 12/31/2006. - At no time do I see anyone named Terry Claussen running for Director. Nor for that matter, does that name appear under any of the numerous volunteer positions. Interestingly, neither do the names of a lot of the usual, vocal critics of the SSA. Okay, so that last one is a little bit of a low blow. But either you've been a non-participant in the electoral affairs of the organization or you just haven't been paying much attention to the outcome. Why does this matter? Well, it seems to me that we all owe it to the Board to sort this out before we launch a lynch mob. I would imagine that there are a few specific individuals who have some serious 'splainin to do. It's obvious from the second update that the Board is moving to rapidly hone in on the details. How about we ask the court of public opinion to recess for a little while to see what comes next. It's obviously not the same old Board... Regards, Erik Mann LS8-18 (P3) |
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![]() Erik, Thank you for your post. It is a welcome change from the "they're all crooks" theme that seems so prevalent on this discussion group. Horst L33 |
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Eric
Amen to what you said. I could not agree with you more, especially about some of the board members that we both know. They do not seserve the link mob!!! Brian "Papa3" wrote in message oups.com... Terry wrote: LET US START RIGHT HERE AND NOW! Our former SSA was driven off the cliff over many, many years. Most of the directors and volunteers names have not changed since I took my first glider flight in 1979. Those that got us here are not the ones to make it better. Disgusted, Terry Claussen FAA Designated Flight Instructor Examiner Glider Former SSAI# 922214 Hey Terry, First, let me say that the current situation makes me sick. It makes me sick because a) the events are in and of themselves disgusting and because b) the SSA Board members who I know are hard-working, dedicated, and innovative. Before you fire back, let's look at the facts in your statement: "Most of the directors and volunteers (sic) names have not changed since I took my first glider flight in 1979. " I've been a member since 1984. I can hardly find one name on the current list of directors who goes back that far. So, giving you a little poetic license, let's go back 10 years. From the 1996 Board Meeting in Kansas City, I did a little look-see at the list of 20 Regional Directors then vs. now. Wanna guess how many are the same? Hint: It's less than 10. Need a second hint: It's less than 5. Third hint: it's an even number. That's right, exactly 4 of the Regional Directors have a tenure going back even 10 years. So, 80% of the Board is new within that period. At least a third of the Board goes back less than 5 years from what I was able to figure. A couple of other interesting observations: - In recent elections, a significant percentage of Directors ran unopposed. So, our members must not be very disatisfied with the Board, otherwise they would have stepped up and run for office themselves, right? - There is currently at least 1 position vacant. Surprising given the glamor and wealth associated with the position. - There are 6 slots which expire 12/31/2006. - At no time do I see anyone named Terry Claussen running for Director. Nor for that matter, does that name appear under any of the numerous volunteer positions. Interestingly, neither do the names of a lot of the usual, vocal critics of the SSA. Okay, so that last one is a little bit of a low blow. But either you've been a non-participant in the electoral affairs of the organization or you just haven't been paying much attention to the outcome. Why does this matter? Well, it seems to me that we all owe it to the Board to sort this out before we launch a lynch mob. I would imagine that there are a few specific individuals who have some serious 'splainin to do. It's obvious from the second update that the Board is moving to rapidly hone in on the details. How about we ask the court of public opinion to recess for a little while to see what comes next. It's obviously not the same old Board... Regards, Erik Mann LS8-18 (P3) |
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You need to put more skin in the game than just your $65. How much time
and effort are you willing to devote to this? What if there was a "constitutional convention" and nobody came? Maby the real problem with the SSA is not the minority of dedicated volunteers who try to make the organization work, it's the majority of armchair critics live in their own worlds, unburdened by reality. Terry wrote: LET US START RIGHT HERE AND NOW! I do pledge my former dues amount ($65) for a newly formed Soaring Association. We have had constitutional conventions in this country before and can do it again. The only requirement is for the current group--ALL of them down to whoever cleans the office in NM--need to go. Our former SSA was driven off the cliff over many, many years. Most of the directors and volunteers names have not changed since I took my first glider flight in 1979. Those that got us here are not the ones to make it better. Disgusted, Terry Claussen FAA Designated Flight Instructor Examiner Glider Former SSAI# 922214 |
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