ATC speed instructions, wind and altimeter indications

ATC never gives me speed instructions in simulation; how common are
they in real life? I presume they know enough about aircraft types to
know how fast or slow they can go?

Also, don't controllers give wind speed and direction when clearing
someone for take-off? I never get that in simulation, but I could
swear that I've heard it regularly in real ATC.

And another thing: Do controllers provide altimeter settings only in
specific circumstances, or what? Apparently after a handoff from one
center to another they give altimeter settings, but when otherwise?

I don't trust ATC in the simulation much. It provides some practice
but there's a lot missing, and even with the little bit of ATC I've
listened to in real life (years ago--can't easily do it here), I seem
to recall discrepancies.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
:

I don't trust ATC in the simulation much. It provides some practice
but there's a lot missing, and even with the little bit of ATC I've
listened to in real life (years ago--can't easily do it here), I seem
to recall discrepancies.

Well, gee, why bother with the simulation if you are not trusting it?????

It's not like you are getting any benefit from simulation since you wont'
get in a REAL PLANE.

Allen

A Lieberma wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
:

I don't trust ATC in the simulation much. It provides some practice
but there's a lot missing, and even with the little bit of ATC I've
listened to in real life (years ago--can't easily do it here), I seem
to recall discrepancies.

Well, gee, why bother with the simulation if you are not trusting it?????

It's not like you are getting any benefit from simulation since you wont'
get in a REAL PLANE.

Allen

now who's the one trolling

buttman wrote:
A Lieberma wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
:

I don't trust ATC in the simulation much. It provides some practice
but there's a lot missing, and even with the little bit of ATC I've
listened to in real life (years ago--can't easily do it here), I seem
to recall discrepancies.
Well, gee, why bother with the simulation if you are not trusting it?????

It's not like you are getting any benefit from simulation since you wont'
get in a REAL PLANE.

Allen

now who's the one trolling

It's not trolling, it's frustration.

Emily wrote in
:

It's not trolling, it's frustration.

Exactly right Emily, thanks for understanding.

To ask input from folks and have no intent of utilizing all the outstanding
advice / answers just sits wrong with me especially if he is only in a
simulator.

It's not like he is even using the simulator to prepare for flying a real
plane. He is using the simulator as if it is a real plane and it's not.

It'a a game and to say he can't trust a game to simulate the real thing and
expect real pilots to expect to understand why the simulator isn't like the
real thing is rediculous.

He should post his simulator performance training questions in a simulator
group if he has no intent of getting in a real plane.

Allen

A Lieberma wrote in
. 18:

Emily wrote in
:

It's not trolling, it's frustration.

Exactly right Emily, thanks for understanding.


Ok, I have only been here for a short time and have come to understand
why everyone dislikes Mxsmanic.

That being said, he usually asks good questions....if not for him, for
the hundreds of people who lurk but have a fear of posting, a fear that
may be fueled by negative replies.

I say if he asks a question you think a student pilot might ask, reply
to the lurkers that have the same question. Maybe Mxsmanic won't get
anything out of it, but someone who truly is interested will.

I understand the frustration, but remember he may ask the question, but
others with the same question may be reading...just a thought.

"A Lieberma" wrote in message
. 18...
He should post his simulator performance training questions in a simulator
group if he has no intent of getting in a real plane.

Allen

He does, and we're sick of him over there too!
Oz/Crash Lander

Emily wrote:
buttman wrote:
A Lieberma wrote:
It's not like you are getting any benefit from simulation since you wont'
get in a REAL PLANE.

now who's the one trolling

It's not trolling, it's frustration.

Then either put him in your kill file, or don't answer him. PLEASE.
You're worse than the disease.

Regards, Kev

Kev wrote:
Emily wrote:
buttman wrote:
A Lieberma wrote:
It's not like you are getting any benefit from simulation since you wont'
get in a REAL PLANE.
now who's the one trolling

It's not trolling, it's frustration.

Then either put him in your kill file, or don't answer him. PLEASE.
You're worse than the disease.

Regards, Kev

He's in MY kill file, but no one else's. Me personally, I've tried
killing threads, but some of them I'd still like to read.

In article om,
says...

Then either put him in your kill file, or don't answer him. PLEASE.
You're worse than the disease.



Go ahead Kev - push it. If it doesn't move, push harder!

He's hijacked the entire group, and you're still defending him on the pretext
that he's "polite". Take a look at the threads - there's nothing left in
rec.aviation.piloting except Mxsmaniac, who has never been in an airplane. He
must be gloating about this insidious victory.

I'm about to check out of here - I'll check back in a few months to see what
you all decided to do about it. . .

GF