New vs. Used

I just received an email with the monthly news from DG. The 2
paragraphs that struck me most is the explanation [1] of the cost of a
new glider and [2] cost of replacement parts. The high cost of a new
sailplanes and the delays in production was blamed on the war between
Airbus and Boeing. OK, lets say I'll buy some of that....but at the
same time I started thinking about cost of used gliders. If the analogy
used in the newsletter was applied both ways then the cost of used
sailplanes should go up significantly....or maybe for European market
the best purchases on the used market are here in the U.S.? When you
take the cost and read the explanation about the cost of parts...well,
it seems to me that the used market should be booming now. I don't know
how many of you received the DG newsletter but ....are there any
thoughts? I guess I will sit for a while on one of my gliders and wait
for improvements of prices on used market.

Jacek
Pasco, WA

And by the way Tom.....you can get parts to the PZL Jantar line without
any problems and that is not from one but multiple sources......

From what I read, Airbus is having all kinds of problems, with CEOs
coming and going, delays in production, shareholders trying to dump
their stock, etc... If the A380 is cancelled because of air carriers
bailing out, and there is a glut of raw materials, does it mean that
the price of gliders will drop accordingly ? Here's to hope...

Cheers, Charles

wrote:
From what I read, Airbus is having all kinds of problems, with CEOs
coming and going, delays in production, shareholders trying to dump
their stock, etc... If the A380 is cancelled because of air carriers
bailing out, and there is a glut of raw materials, does it mean that
the price of gliders will drop accordingly ? Here's to hope...

Cheers, Charles

Here is a link with explanation about "older" gliders and flying
"fast". I really like it. It put things in a right perspective. Take a
good look at the Pegasus right in the graph....
http://faculty.chicagogsb.edu/john.c...yingfaster.doc

Jacek

[1] of the cost of a
new glider and [2] cost of replacement parts. The high cost of a new
sailplanes and the delays in production was blamed on the war between
Airbus and Boeing.

- In one of the previous DG newsletters their explanantion of higher
costs was....inability to produce a quality glider elsewere but
Germany.
They raise prices because they want to make more $$. That's it. After
all, they dont even have a competition outside of Germany.

Prices will come down when the chinese start building gliders.

Mike Schumann

"GK" wrote in message
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[1] of the cost of a
new glider and [2] cost of replacement parts. The high cost of a new
sailplanes and the delays in production was blamed on the war between
Airbus and Boeing.

- In one of the previous DG newsletters their explanantion of higher
costs was....inability to produce a quality glider elsewere but
Germany.
They raise prices because they want to make more $$. That's it. After
all, they dont even have a competition outside of Germany.

Mike Schumann wrote:
Prices will come down when the chinese start building gliders.

Mike Schumann

- Or companies like Honda.

GK wrote:
Mike Schumann wrote:
Prices will come down when the chinese start building gliders.

Mike Schumann

- Or companies like Honda.

Which builds their cars in the USA...

So, maybe we'll see a corporate buyout of Windward Performance, and the
glider renamed the "HondaHawk". I like the sound of that!

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"Transponders in Sailplanes" on the Soaring Safety Foundation website
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"A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org

Eric Greenwell wrote:
GK wrote:
[snip]
(Honda) Which builds their cars in the USA...

So, maybe we'll see a corporate buyout of Windward Performance, and the
glider renamed the "HondaHawk". I like the sound of that!

You like the sound of another foreign company taking over US jobs? It
may be true that, for example, Honda builds (some of) their cars in the
USA. But what does that really mean? It means that the US employees
are generally doing the grunt work of manual labor. Most all
Engineering and Management jobs there have been shipped overseas. So
what kinds of jobs will our children, grandchildren, etc. have?
Working on an assembly line bolting together Hondas (be they cars or
gliders)? Not a pretty picture in my view. So no, I don't like the
sound of that.

Doug Hoffman

GK wrote:
Mike Schumann wrote:
Prices will come down when the chinese start building gliders.

Mike Schumann

- Or companies like Honda.

That won't bring prices down. Honda build better, not cheaper.

GC

Graeme Cant wrote:
GK wrote:
Mike Schumann wrote:
Prices will come down when the chinese start building gliders.

Mike Schumann

- Or companies like Honda.

That won't bring prices down. Honda build better, not cheaper.

Car makers live by planned obsolescence. Look forward to the 10 year
glider if they get into the game.


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