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Old December 21st 06, 02:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder
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PILOT CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER AFTER FATAL CRASH
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#194044)
A 30-year-old man who was flying a 1972 Bellanca Super Viking when it
crashed into a pond in northeastern Oklahoma on Saturday night,
killing all three passengers, has been charged with three counts of
manslaughter. Thomas Brent Caldwell, 30, of Pryor, Okla., apparently
never had a pilot certificate and was drinking at the time of the
accident, authorities said. Killed in the crash were Mariano Carlos,
15, of Pryor; and Eduardo Robles, 20, and Campos Gonzalez, 33, both
from Mexico. Investigators said it appears the engine was not
producing power when the airplane hit the water, and the passengers
appear to have drowned.


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Old December 21st 06, 03:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kingfish
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
PILOT CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER AFTER FATAL CRASH
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#194044)
A 30-year-old man who was flying a 1972 Bellanca Super Viking when it
crashed into a pond in northeastern Oklahoma on Saturday night,
killing all three passengers, has been charged with three counts of
manslaughter. Thomas Brent Caldwell, 30, of Pryor, Okla., apparently
never had a pilot certificate and was drinking at the time of the
accident, authorities said. Killed in the crash were Mariano Carlos,
15, of Pryor; and Eduardo Robles, 20, and Campos Gonzalez, 33, both
from Mexico. Investigators said it appears the engine was not
producing power when the airplane hit the water, and the passengers
appear to have drowned.


I just saw this on AvWeb and it made me sick. You have to wonder how
can one individual harness enough stupidity to fly a plane without a
license, with passengers, while sh!tfaced. My guess is that OK law
doesn't allow for a murder charge due to the circumstances - I think
it's warranted here. JMHO.

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Old December 21st 06, 04:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Macklin
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Default Pilot charged with Manslaughter

A license is not required to fly or own an airplane. It is
required to legally fly an airplane. Training is required
to get the license.
How much dope was in the airplane?



"Kingfish" wrote in message
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|
| Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
| PILOT CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER AFTER FATAL CRASH
|
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#194044)
| A 30-year-old man who was flying a 1972 Bellanca Super
Viking when it
| crashed into a pond in northeastern Oklahoma on Saturday
night,
| killing all three passengers, has been charged with
three counts of
| manslaughter. Thomas Brent Caldwell, 30, of Pryor,
Okla., apparently
| never had a pilot certificate and was drinking at the
time of the
| accident, authorities said. Killed in the crash were
Mariano Carlos,
| 15, of Pryor; and Eduardo Robles, 20, and Campos
Gonzalez, 33, both
| from Mexico. Investigators said it appears the engine
was not
| producing power when the airplane hit the water, and the
passengers
| appear to have drowned.
|
| I just saw this on AvWeb and it made me sick. You have to
wonder how
| can one individual harness enough stupidity to fly a plane
without a
| license, with passengers, while sh!tfaced. My guess is
that OK law
| doesn't allow for a murder charge due to the
circumstances - I think
| it's warranted here. JMHO.
|


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Old December 21st 06, 05:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Kingfish
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Jim Macklin wrote:
A license is not required to fly or own an airplane. It is
required to legally fly an airplane. Training is required
to get the license.
How much dope was in the airplane?


I'd say just the one in the left seat

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Old December 21st 06, 07:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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How much dope was in the airplane?



They wont tell becuse the cops are selling it as we all discuss this!


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Old December 21st 06, 05:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ross
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Kingfish wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

PILOT CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER AFTER FATAL CRASH
(http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#194044)
A 30-year-old man who was flying a 1972 Bellanca Super Viking when it
crashed into a pond in northeastern Oklahoma on Saturday night,
killing all three passengers, has been charged with three counts of
manslaughter. Thomas Brent Caldwell, 30, of Pryor, Okla., apparently
never had a pilot certificate and was drinking at the time of the
accident, authorities said. Killed in the crash were Mariano Carlos,
15, of Pryor; and Eduardo Robles, 20, and Campos Gonzalez, 33, both
from Mexico. Investigators said it appears the engine was not
producing power when the airplane hit the water, and the passengers
appear to have drowned.



I just saw this on AvWeb and it made me sick. You have to wonder how
can one individual harness enough stupidity to fly a plane without a
license, with passengers, while sh!tfaced. My guess is that OK law
doesn't allow for a murder charge due to the circumstances - I think
it's warranted here. JMHO.


Do you know of any state that had a law that drunk drivers/flyers should
be charged with murder. IMO it should be a capital crime. Just last
Sunday and Fort Worth, TX policeman helping a motorist was killed by a
drunk driver going too fast.

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Old December 22nd 06, 05:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Kingfish writes:

My guess is that OK law doesn't allow for a murder charge
due to the circumstances ...


A murder charge requires that you show he killed them deliberately.
That's the major distinction between murder and manslaughter. Just
being stupid normally leads to manslaughter.

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Old December 22nd 06, 04:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Skylune
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Mxsmanic wrote:
Just
being stupid normally leads to manslaughter.



I don't think Boyer should be charged, despite the absurd TV ads
running on the weather channel denouncing "special interests."
Outstanding irony, the AOPA denouncing "special interests.."

Q: If he thinks the funding forumula is so fair, why not support this
with numbers?
A: Because it would show the massive subsidies taxpayers and
commercial passengers give to GA.

Happy holidays, and thank you to whomever signed me up to recieve
Flight Training. I do read it each month.

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Old December 22nd 06, 05:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Theune
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Skylune wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote:
Just
being stupid normally leads to manslaughter.



I don't think Boyer should be charged, despite the absurd TV ads
running on the weather channel denouncing "special interests."
Outstanding irony, the AOPA denouncing "special interests.."

Q: If he thinks the funding forumula is so fair, why not support this
with numbers?
A: Because it would show the massive subsidies taxpayers and
commercial passengers give to GA.

Happy holidays, and thank you to whomever signed me up to recieve
Flight Training. I do read it each month.

I had unblocked you recently but see it was a mistake, your just as
stupid as ever.
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Old December 21st 06, 05:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Christopher Campbell[_1_]
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On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 06:41:18 -0800, Gig 601XL Builder wrote
(in article ):

PILOT CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER AFTER FATAL CRASH


How terribly unfortunate.

 




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