USA Today .. Positive GA Pub

Good, positive press on the usefullness of GA:

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...ots-usat_x.htm

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ

Jay Beckman wrote:
Good, positive press on the usefullness of GA:

http://www.usatoday.com/travel/fligh...ots-usat_x.htm

Thank you for the link.

I just wish they'd give a (much) wider range of cost figures, instead
of concentrating on the higher end of owning airplanes and license
cost.

Cheers, Kev

Kev writes:

I just wish they'd give a (much) wider range of cost figures, instead
of concentrating on the higher end of owning airplanes and license
cost.

They've considerably underplayed the high cost of general aviation,
and they've not even mentioned the weather factors in aviation. Be
glad that the article is so positive; I haven't seen one like it in a
long time.

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Kev writes:

I just wish they'd give a (much) wider range of cost figures, instead
of concentrating on the higher end of owning airplanes and license
cost.

They've considerably underplayed the high cost of general aviation,
and they've not even mentioned the weather factors in aviation. Be
glad that the article is so positive; I haven't seen one like it in a
long time.

They identified the costs to purchase a new plane as $400,000, although one
can purchase a new Cessna 172SP for about half that.

They identified the cost to purchase a 22 year old plane as $92,000,
although one can purchase a used plane for considerably less than half
that.

They identified the hourly rate to rent a plane as $200 per hour or more,
although one can rent planes for half that or less.

The article was a good, positive article, and I certainly appreciate the
positive press, especially since I identify with the subjects of the
article (I got my pilots license in 2001 and fly to save time and money in
my business).

But it absolutely did not underplay the high cost of general aviation. Your
perspective is skewed.

Judah wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
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They've considerably underplayed the high cost of general aviation,
and they've not even mentioned the weather factors in aviation. Be
glad that the article is so positive; I haven't seen one like it in a
long time.

They identified the costs to purchase a new plane as $400,000,
although one can purchase a new Cessna 172SP for about half that.

Or a new Cirrus SRV-G2 for $199,900:
http://www.cirrusdesign.com/aircraft/pricing/

Or a new Zodiac XL for $79,900 (or IFR certified for $94,900):
http://www.newplane.com/amd/amd/601_SLSA/price.html

Or a new Savannah for $57,995:
http://www.skykits.com/KitsandpricingUS.rev2.htm

Or a new CT for $92,900:
http://www.flightdesignusa.com/ct_in...sults_page.asp

And so on....

But it absolutely did not underplay the high cost of general aviation.
Your perspective is skewed.

Agreed - the article was definitely skewed toward higher cost planes.

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
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Judah wrote:
Mxsmanic wrote in
:
They've considerably underplayed the high cost of general aviation,
and they've not even mentioned the weather factors in aviation. Be
glad that the article is so positive; I haven't seen one like it in a
long time.

They identified the costs to purchase a new plane as $400,000,
although one can purchase a new Cessna 172SP for about half that.

Or a new Cirrus SRV-G2 for $199,900:
http://www.cirrusdesign.com/aircraft/pricing/

Or a new Zodiac XL for $79,900 (or IFR certified for $94,900):
http://www.newplane.com/amd/amd/601_SLSA/price.html

Or a new Savannah for $57,995:
http://www.skykits.com/KitsandpricingUS.rev2.htm

Or a new CT for $92,900:
http://www.flightdesignusa.com/ct_in...sults_page.asp

And so on....

But it absolutely did not underplay the high cost of general aviation.
Your perspective is skewed.

Agreed - the article was definitely skewed toward higher cost planes.

Wow, someone else knows about the Savannah! I'd really like to get a
Savannah after I get my ticket. Pity that more people don't know about it.

Judah writes:

They identified the costs to purchase a new plane as $400,000, although one
can purchase a new Cessna 172SP for about half that.

That's still $200,000. For most people, it might as well be
$200,000,000.

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Mxsmanic wrote:
Judah writes:

They identified the costs to purchase a new plane as $400,000,
although one can purchase a new Cessna 172SP for about half that.

That's still $200,000. For most people, it might as well be
$200,000,000.

Yet another example of you taking one statement out of many and basing your
entire argument on it. As Judah wrote in the post you replied to an very
serviceable aircraft can be perchased for much less than $200,000. And since
the article was about people that have real jobs and own real businesses the
fact that aircraft are available at a price that most with the need could
afford would be a nice addition to what was otherwise a pretty good article.

Mxsmanic wrote:
Judah writes:

They identified the costs to purchase a new plane as $400,000, although one
can purchase a new Cessna 172SP for about half that.

That's still $200,000. For most people, it might as well be
$200,000,000.

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Hey man,

I rent airplanes for $79/hr and one can find a nice IFR equipped 152
for $25k or less. Even better, one can get into a partnership and get
something nice for a good price. I started with nothing and now have a
job paying in the mid-$50s that allows me to fly around 90/hrs per
year. Obtaining a job that pays $50k/hr or more is doable by anybody
of average intelligence that is willing to work. I'm under 30 yrs old
and have a college degree, my private, instrument, and am working on my
commercial - all paid for in cash (no debt).

Quit feeling sorry for yourself and get a job that pays. You sound
lazy and whiny.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Judah writes:

They identified the costs to purchase a new plane as $400,000, although
one
can purchase a new Cessna 172SP for about half that.

That's still $200,000. For most people, it might as well be
$200,000,000.


In the anti-sport pilot communitiy, they are always complaining about the
cost of light sport aircraft (LSA). When you respond that a new LSA is half
the cost of a new 172, they still complain about it. When you point out
that an Ercoupe is about $15K and is an LSA, they complain about something
else.