sound levels and hearing loss

Just a word or two of caution, folks. Sound levels in SEL airplanes
can exceed 90 dB A at the pilot's ear, and prolonged exposure to that
level can lead to hearing loss. I stuff a couple of thousand bucks
worth of electronics in each ear now, partly because I didn't use a
headset in the airplane in my younger days (lots of gun fire and some
evidence of family hearing loss are also factors). Even if you're not
using the radio, protect your hearing.

clear.

Well, for me, make that C L E A R!

(Can you hear me now?)

Tony wrote:
Just a word or two of caution, folks. Sound levels in SEL airplanes
can exceed 90 dB A at the pilot's ear, and prolonged exposure to that
level can lead to hearing loss. I stuff a couple of thousand bucks
worth of electronics in each ear now, partly because I didn't use a
headset in the airplane in my younger days (lots of gun fire and some
evidence of family hearing loss are also factors). Even if you're not
using the radio, protect your hearing.

clear.

Well, for me, make that C L E A R!

(Can you hear me now?)



Huh?

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Tony wrote:

Just a word or two of caution, folks. Sound levels in SEL airplanes
can exceed 90 dB A at the pilot's ear, and prolonged exposure to that
level can lead to hearing loss. I stuff a couple of thousand bucks
worth of electronics in each ear now, partly because I didn't use a
headset in the airplane in my younger days (lots of gun fire and some
evidence of family hearing loss are also factors). Even if you're not
using the radio, protect your hearing.

clear.

Well, for me, make that C L E A R!

(Can you hear me now?)




Huh?



My wife use to work for an ENT for years and would tell of the train
personal that don't wear hearing protection and have severe hearing
loss. I see the fire truck personnel now have DC headsets. I ought to
equip my car with ANR headsets. Notice how bad road noise is now even in
good cars.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

On Feb 9, 1:17 pm, Ross wrote:
Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Tony wrote:

Just a word or two of caution, folks. Sound levels in SEL airplanes
can exceed 90 dB A at the pilot's ear, and prolonged exposure to that
level can lead to hearing loss. I stuff a couple of thousand bucks
worth of electronics in each ear now, partly because I didn't use a
headset in the airplane in my younger days (lots of gun fire and some
evidence of family hearing loss are also factors). Even if you're not
using the radio, protect your hearing.

clear.

Well, for me, make that C L E A R!

(Can you hear me now?)

Huh?

My wife use to work for an ENT for years and would tell of the train
personal that don't wear hearing protection and have severe hearing
loss. I see the fire truck personnel now have DC headsets. I ought to
equip my car with ANR headsets. Notice how bad road noise is now even in
good cars.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI- Hide quoted text -

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Unfortunately, while a Good Idea(tm) it may not be practical due to
the motor vehicle laws - in Minnesota, it is illegal to have
headphones in both ears while driving. It is my understanding that it
is so that the driver is not isolated from the outside world (horns
honking, sirens, general distraction) - I am sure the law came about
before active noise cancellation headphones, though as those could
actually enhance the driver's ability to hear such things.

Cite:
Minnesota Statutes 2006
169.471 TELEVISION; HEADPHONES.

Subdivision 1. [snipped - pertains to television]

Subd. 2. Use of headphones in vehicle. (a) No person, while operating
a motor vehicle, shall
wear headphones or earphones that are used in both ears simultaneously
for purposes of receiving
or listening to broadcasts or reproductions from radios, tape decks,
or other sound-producing or
transmitting devices.
(b) Paragraph (a) does not prohibit:
(1) the use of a hearing aid device by a person who needs the device;
or
(2) the use of a communication headset by a firefighter while
operating a fire department
emergency vehicle in response to an emergency.

...for purposes of receiving
or listening to broadcasts or reproductions from radios, tape decks,
or other sound-producing or
transmitting devices.

That's a key section. If you wear a noise cancelling headset which
covers both ears, but not for the purpose of listending to radio (etc),
then you're ok by that law.

Jose
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Mow here's a thought -- under MN law, is an airplane a 'motor
vechicle'? Maybe even if it is, runways are not highways and the state
police do not patrol them so you can get away with your DCs. Now, some
states (for personal safety reasons I am not listing my candidate
states) very will might have a cop with a radar gun along a runway.
Touch down hot and get a ticket (that of course would be a good idea
anyhow). Get another one for wearing a headset.

I think it's time for my meds.



On Feb 9, 5:16 pm, "Randy Aldous" wrote:
On Feb 9, 1:17 pm, Ross wrote:





Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Tony wrote:

Just a word or two of caution, folks. Sound levels in SEL airplanes
can exceed 90 dB A at the pilot's ear, and prolonged exposure to that
level can lead to hearing loss. I stuff a couple of thousand bucks
worth of electronics in each ear now, partly because I didn't use a
headset in the airplane in my younger days (lots of gun fire and some
evidence of family hearing loss are also factors). Even if you're not
using the radio, protect your hearing.

clear.

Well, for me, make that C L E A R!

(Can you hear me now?)

Huh?

My wife use to work for an ENT for years and would tell of the train
personal that don't wear hearing protection and have severe hearing
loss. I see the fire truck personnel now have DC headsets. I ought to
equip my car with ANR headsets. Notice how bad road noise is now even in
good cars.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Unfortunately, while a Good Idea(tm) it may not be practical due to
the motor vehicle laws - in Minnesota, it is illegal to have
headphones in both ears while driving. It is my understanding that it
is so that the driver is not isolated from the outside world (horns
honking, sirens, general distraction) - I am sure the law came about
before active noise cancellation headphones, though as those could
actually enhance the driver's ability to hear such things.

Cite:
Minnesota Statutes 2006
169.471 TELEVISION; HEADPHONES.

Subdivision 1. [snipped - pertains to television]

Subd. 2. Use of headphones in vehicle. (a) No person, while operating
a motor vehicle, shall
wear headphones or earphones that are used in both ears simultaneously
for purposes of receiving
or listening to broadcasts or reproductions from radios, tape decks,
or other sound-producing or
transmitting devices.
(b) Paragraph (a) does not prohibit:
(1) the use of a hearing aid device by a person who needs the device;
or
(2) the use of a communication headset by a firefighter while
operating a fire department
emergency vehicle in response to an emergency.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Tony" wrote in news:1171080597.882749.305500
@q2g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

Mow here's a thought -- under MN law, is an airplane a 'motor
vechicle'? Maybe even if it is, runways are not highways and the state
police do not patrol them so you can get away with your DCs. Now, some
states (for personal safety reasons I am not listing my candidate
states) very will might have a cop with a radar gun along a runway.
Touch down hot and get a ticket (that of course would be a good idea
anyhow). Get another one for wearing a headset.

What is the posted speed limit on the runway?

On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 11:15:19 -0800, Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote
(in article ) :

Tony wrote:
Just a word or two of caution, folks. Sound levels in SEL airplanes
can exceed 90 dB A at the pilot's ear, and prolonged exposure to that
level can lead to hearing loss. I stuff a couple of thousand bucks
worth of electronics in each ear now, partly because I didn't use a
headset in the airplane in my younger days (lots of gun fire and some
evidence of family hearing loss are also factors). Even if you're not
using the radio, protect your hearing.

clear.

Well, for me, make that C L E A R!

(Can you hear me now?)



Huh?



Beat me to it.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 9 Feb 2007 11:10:32 -0800, "Tony" wrote:

Just a word or two of caution, folks. Sound levels in SEL airplanes
can exceed 90 dB A at the pilot's ear, and prolonged exposure to that
level can lead to hearing loss. I stuff a couple of thousand bucks
worth of electronics in each ear now, partly because I didn't use a
headset in the airplane in my younger days (lots of gun fire and some
evidence of family hearing loss are also factors). Even if you're not
using the radio, protect your hearing.

I took a Radio Shack sound meter aloft with me one day. 109 dB at chest level.

I wear an ANR, now....

Ron Wanttaja

Ron Wanttaja wrote:

"Tony" wrote:

Just a word or two of caution, folks. Sound levels in SEL airplanes
can exceed 90 dB A at the pilot's ear, and prolonged exposure to that
level can lead to hearing loss. I stuff a couple of thousand bucks
worth of electronics in each ear now, partly because I didn't use a
headset in the airplane in my younger days (lots of gun fire and some
evidence of family hearing loss are also factors). Even if you're not
using the radio, protect your hearing.

I took a Radio Shack sound meter aloft with me one day. 109 dB at
chest level.

I wear an ANR, now....

What rating scale was that measured with? It looks like dBC, which is
not representative of the effect on human hearing.

Further, don't be lulled into thinking ANR will help prevent hearing loss.
ANR has a number of issues that can give a false sense of security. The
best protection is a passive ear muff. With some designs, ANR can actually
increase sound levels.