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Well, it's almost 2 months since I last flew, due to maintenance issues
and a holiday interstate. I had a lesson today, and was feeling fairly confident that I hadn't become too rusty, due to constant visualisation and going over stuff in my head. I was slightly nervous about the a/c as it's wings were only reattached yesterday, and the prop had also been removed for re-dressing. I was a little surprised at the prop, because I had expected the resin leading edge inserts to have been replaced, but they weren't. They had just re-coated the prop itself with that varnish stuff, whatever they call it! :-) We started the a/c, after a couple of tries with and without choke. She was running very rough, and didn't sound right at all. I shut her dwn again, and tried again to start it. This time all sounded and felt just right. Must have just been too much fuel in the previous attempts to start it. Taxiied and took off. Pulling back the throttle to begin decent for the first touch and go delivered another nervous moment. A fairly strong, unusual vibration was felt. As we were not on the ground, my mouth instantly did an impression of a cats bum, and gauges were frantically checked. My instructor suggested that the prop may not be 100% balanced properly after being re-dressed. Turned out that must have been correct, as it did it every time we throttled back, and caused no ill effects other than the unusual vibration. We did 2 touch and goes and a full stop with the instructor with me, and then I did 5 touch and goes and a full stop on my own. One of my aproaches was a little high, so I thought it was the perfect opportunity to have a go at a side slip. I'd been shown how twice, done it once with assistance, and done it once or maybe twice without assistance. Well, I gave myself a little bit of a scare, as it didn't go quite to plan. Discussions with my instructor once on the ground revealed that I simply didn't have quite enough rudder applied, but I was applauded for trying to practice it. I was't happy with any of my approaches, most of them were too low, and I needed to apply power to get back on the correct glide slope, and a couple of the landings were a bit ordinary too, however I did have a bit of a last minute crosswind to contend with on the last few approaches from about 300 feet and below. I', now at 1.3hrs solo, and need 3 hours solo before we move on to the next section of the syllabus. I'm booked in again for next Saturday morning, so we'll try and whittle away that time then. -- Oz Lander. I'm not always right, But I'm never wrong. |
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Sounds good there CL.
Not4wood "Oz Lander" wrote in message ... Well, it's almost 2 months since I last flew, due to maintenance issues and a holiday interstate. I had a lesson today, and was feeling fairly confident that I hadn't become too rusty, due to constant visualisation and going over stuff in my head. I was slightly nervous about the a/c as it's wings were only reattached yesterday, and the prop had also been removed for re-dressing. I was a little surprised at the prop, because I had expected the resin leading edge inserts to have been replaced, but they weren't. They had just re-coated the prop itself with that varnish stuff, whatever they call it! :-) We started the a/c, after a couple of tries with and without choke. She was running very rough, and didn't sound right at all. I shut her dwn again, and tried again to start it. This time all sounded and felt just right. Must have just been too much fuel in the previous attempts to start it. Taxiied and took off. Pulling back the throttle to begin decent for the first touch and go delivered another nervous moment. A fairly strong, unusual vibration was felt. As we were not on the ground, my mouth instantly did an impression of a cats bum, and gauges were frantically checked. My instructor suggested that the prop may not be 100% balanced properly after being re-dressed. Turned out that must have been correct, as it did it every time we throttled back, and caused no ill effects other than the unusual vibration. We did 2 touch and goes and a full stop with the instructor with me, and then I did 5 touch and goes and a full stop on my own. One of my aproaches was a little high, so I thought it was the perfect opportunity to have a go at a side slip. I'd been shown how twice, done it once with assistance, and done it once or maybe twice without assistance. Well, I gave myself a little bit of a scare, as it didn't go quite to plan. Discussions with my instructor once on the ground revealed that I simply didn't have quite enough rudder applied, but I was applauded for trying to practice it. I was't happy with any of my approaches, most of them were too low, and I needed to apply power to get back on the correct glide slope, and a couple of the landings were a bit ordinary too, however I did have a bit of a last minute crosswind to contend with on the last few approaches from about 300 feet and below. I', now at 1.3hrs solo, and need 3 hours solo before we move on to the next section of the syllabus. I'm booked in again for next Saturday morning, so we'll try and whittle away that time then. -- Oz Lander. I'm not always right, But I'm never wrong. |
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Taxiied and took off. Pulling back the throttle to begin decent for the
first touch and go delivered another nervous moment. A fairly strong, unusual vibration was felt. As we were not on the ground, my mouth instantly did an impression of a cats bum, and gauges were frantically checked. My instructor suggested that the prop may not be 100% balanced properly after being re-dressed. Turned out that must have been correct, as it did it every time we throttled back, and caused no ill effects other than the unusual vibration. We did 2 touch and goes and a full stop with the instructor with me, Oz, I'm trying not to read too much into this, but it seems to me that you and your instructor should have landed the plane after experiencing a "fairly strong, unusual vibration". I've found that "strong, unusual vibrations" usually lead to bad things happening in airplanes. Otherwise, glad you're back in the air! -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com... Oz, I'm trying not to read too much into this, but it seems to me that you and your instructor should have landed the plane after experiencing a "fairly strong, unusual vibration". I've found that "strong, unusual vibrations" usually lead to bad things happening in airplanes. Otherwise, glad you're back in the air! -- Jay Honeck Hi Jay, It should be noted, that ANY unusual vibration to me, a student pilot with only 10.3 hours, is fairly strong. ;-) My instructor didn't seem phased by it, and I'm sure she would not have let me go if she was concerned about it, but I do understand your comment. Crash Lander |
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On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 22:30:44 GMT, Crash Lander wrote:
My instructor didn't seem phased by it, and I'm sure she would not have let me go if she was concerned about it, but I do understand your comment. One must take into account the personality of the instructor. We have an old codger instructor with thousands of hours as a commercial commuter pilot. Despite all this experience, I won't fly with the guy. His "Bold Pilot" approach to aviation scares the crap out of me. -- Dallas |
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"Oz Lander" wrote:
We did 2 touch and goes and a full stop with the instructor with me, and then I did 5 touch and goes and a full stop on my own. One of my aproaches was a little high, so I thought it was the perfect opportunity to have a go at a side slip. I'd been shown how twice, done it once with assistance, and done it once or maybe twice without assistance. Well, I gave myself a little bit of a scare, as it didn't go quite to plan. Discussions with my instructor once on the ground revealed that I simply didn't have quite enough rudder applied, but I was applauded for trying to practice it. Congrats at getting back up. Glad the "vibration" didn't lead to anything more, but after two unrelated, back-to-back engine problems, I'm with Jay about making assumptions re the cause while in the air. Quick comment: a "side slip" is for crosswind correction (lowered wing into the wind w/rudder to keep the longitudinal axis of the plane lined up with the runway;a "forward slip" is for losing excess altitude (wing low w/opposite rudder so as to descend in line with the runway but with the longitudinal axis exposed to the oncoming air to produce more drag for descent). It *does* seem like they were named incorrectly. |
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"Shirl" wrote in message
... Quick comment: a "side slip" is for crosswind correction (lowered wing into the wind w/rudder to keep the longitudinal axis of the plane lined up with the runway;a "forward slip" is for losing excess altitude (wing low w/opposite rudder so as to descend in line with the runway but with the longitudinal axis exposed to the oncoming air to produce more drag for descent). It *does* seem like they were named incorrectly. My bad! I meant forward slip. We've only learned the one so far. I didn't know there was a difference, as we haven't covered the other type yet. I now look forward to learning all about 'side slipping'! ;-) Crash Lander |
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My bad! I meant forward slip. We've only learned the one so far. I didn't
know there was a difference, as we haven't covered the other type yet. I now look forward to learning all about 'side slipping'! ;-) There is no difference. It =seems= like there is a difference, only because the perspective of what you want to accomplish is different. However, as far as the way the airplane goes through the air is concerned, they are completely identical. The only difference is the way you think of the airplanes motion with respect to the ground. The airplane doesn't care about the ground though. Jose -- Humans are pack animals. Above all things, they have a deep need to follow something, be it a leader, a creed, or a mob. Whosoever fully understands this holds the world in his hands. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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"Jose" wrote in message
.. . There is no difference. It =seems= like there is a difference, only because the perspective of what you want to accomplish is different. However, as far as the way the airplane goes through the air is concerned, they are completely identical. The only difference is the way you think of the airplanes motion with respect to the ground. The airplane doesn't care about the ground though. Aha! Now I understand. Thankyou. Oz/Crash Lander |
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Jose wrote:
[re side slip vs. forward slip] There is no difference. It =seems= like there is a difference, only because the perspective of what you want to accomplish is different. However, as far as the way the airplane goes through the air is concerned, they are completely identical. The only difference is the way you think of the airplanes motion with respect to the ground. The difference is that when the longitudinal axis of the airplane is not lined up with the runway centerline (forward slip), there is much more drag. If you're too high, a side slip doesn't help you lose excess altitude as effectively as a forward slip. If you're doing an emergency landing off field, landing on a short strip, or landing with a crosswind, the difference between the two slips can be quite significant. |
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