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Old June 17th 07, 03:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
cavelamb himself
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Default Bend over, folks...

CBS news story about the Department of Homeland Security decision
to require identification of all operators and passengers of all
private boats and planes...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2939438.shtml

We have met the enemy - and he is us...
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Old June 17th 07, 04:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Denny
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Default Bend over, folks...

On Jun 17, 10:48 am, cavelamb himself wrote:
CBS news story about the Department of Homeland Security decision
to require identification of all operators and passengers of all
private boats and planes...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2939438.shtml

We have met the enemy - and he is us...



This is all over the boating groups... We pilots also need to enlist
our friends, coworkers, acquaintances, enemies, and neighbors, who are
boaters and get them stirred up over this.. There are vastly more
boaters in the USA than pilots... The group that needs to get buried
in hate mail from our boating friends is your elected congress
critter.. They tend to be sensitive to voter unrest.. Once sensitized
to the issue they will drop around the HSA and casually mention where
the tax dollars to fund this massive new inspection and monitoring
boondoggle will NOT be coming from....

denny

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Old June 17th 07, 05:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Bend over, folks...

("cavelamb himself" wrote)
CBS news story about the Department of Homeland Security decision to
require identification of all operators and passengers of all private
boats and planes...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2939438.shtml

We have met the enemy - and he is us...



Meanwhile, there are 17 minivans (lined up in front of the local multi-plex)
waiting to pick up the little tike movie goers - and their friends.

It's a cover-your-ass bureaucracy - that's all it is.


Paul-Mont
And buses... what about the buses?


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Old June 17th 07, 05:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Scott[_1_]
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Default Bend over, folks...

So far, what it says in the article is boat and private jets. I have
neither. But, as I suspected long ago, it will just be a metter of time
before they go after my Corben and my F-150. I still stand by my
original belief that the knee-jerk reactions are just a convenient cover
to take away our freedoms. I don't need the government to protect
me...I can use my own guns to wipe out terrorists...



cavelamb himself wrote:
CBS news story about the Department of Homeland Security decision
to require identification of all operators and passengers of all
private boats and planes...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n2939438.shtml

We have met the enemy - and he is us...


--
Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)
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Old June 17th 07, 05:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Blueskies
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Default Bend over, folks...


"Scott" wrote in message .. .
So far, what it says in the article is boat and private jets. I have neither. But, as I suspected long ago, it will
just be a metter of time before they go after my Corben and my F-150. I still stand by my original belief that the
knee-jerk reactions are just a convenient cover to take away our freedoms. I don't need the government to protect
me...I can use my own guns to wipe out terrorists...




Have any of you ever been walking down the street, just minding your own business, when a cop stopped you and asked to
see your ID? Have you ever said no? Did you pay the price for saying no? This has been going on for years,and no-one
seems to give a damn....


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Old June 17th 07, 07:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
jl
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Default Bend over, folks...

On Jun 17, 12:58 pm, "Blueskies"
wrote:
"Scott" wrote in messagenews:ZNCdnUzsMue6_ujbnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@brigh t.net...
So far, what it says in the article is boat and private jets. I have neither. But, as I suspected long ago, it will
just be a metter of time before they go after my Corben and my F-150. I still stand by my original belief that the
knee-jerk reactions are just a convenient cover to take away our freedoms. I don't need the government to protect
me...I can use my own guns to wipe out terrorists...


Have any of you ever been walking down the street, just minding your own business, when a cop stopped you and asked to
see your ID? Have you ever said no? Did you pay the price for saying no? This has been going on for years,and no-one
seems to give a damn....


I was walking off some steam about 1 a. m. in Asheville, NC. A cop
stopped me and asked me what I was doing there. I was walking through
the parking lot of a bowling alley about 2 blocks from my home. I was
out getting exercise, I told him.

He asked me for I. D. I told him I had none. Then I asked him wth
he was doing shaking down local residents out for a peaceful
neighborhood stroll. He did not answer. He then demanded that I
accompany him to my home to show him who I was. I refused. "I have
done nothing wrong. You're not going to shake me down," I said. He
then threatened me with arrest for resisting, delaying and obstructing
a police officer in the performance of his duties.

I told him that by god if he arrested me he'd better have a charge
that stuck or I would be owning a 2d lien on his mobile home. "Do
you have nothing better to do than to menace private citizens on the
street doing absolutely nothing illegal?" I asked him.

"I am not "mincing" you," he said.

He started to put his hands on me. "NO, don't you touch me," I said.

After a few minutes he said, "You can go. Go ahead." I walked away
immediately.

I saw him a few weeks later about the same time and he waved at me. I
think I taught the little gnatsie a lesson.

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Old June 17th 07, 08:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Montblack
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Default Bend over, folks...

("jl" wrote)
I saw him a few weeks later about the same time and he waved at me. I
think I taught the little gnatsie a lesson.



The cop was right, you were wrong - with that ....."attitude".


Paul-Mont


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Old June 18th 07, 02:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Alan Baker
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Default Bend over, folks...

In article ,
"Montblack" wrote:

("jl" wrote)
I saw him a few weeks later about the same time and he waved at me. I
think I taught the little gnatsie a lesson.



The cop was right, you were wrong - with that ....."attitude".


Paul-Mont


Nope.

He was right and the cop was wrong.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
"If you raise the ceiling four feet, move the fireplace from that wall
to that wall, you'll still only get the full stereophonic effect if you
sit in the bottom of that cupboard."
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Old June 18th 07, 04:17 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
jl
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Default Bend over, folks...

On Jun 17, 3:57 pm, "Montblack" Y4_NOT!...
wrote:
("jl" wrote)

I saw him a few weeks later about the same time and he waved at me. I
think I taught the little gnatsie a lesson.


The cop was right, you were wrong - with that ....."attitude".

Paul-Mont


Maybe I should have put in the initial details. I was walking east
parallel to the main road. The cruiser was headed west. At the
turnoff to the bowling alley the cruiser suddenly turned into the
bowling alley parking lot, which is lit up like Christmas, and gunned
the engine, doing a 180 and speeding toward me from behind. The
cruiser pulled right in front of me, blocking my path and putting me
in a fight or flight mode. If you've ever had a large motor vehicle
threaten you right out of the blue you know the feeling. If you
haven't then you're unusually lucky. Of course, one can't always
recite all the details which accurately portray an occurrence, so you
try to do it the best you can. But the second thing the officer did
to antagonize was to shine a bright spotlight into my face.

Now I may come back and read in this thread but won't get into a fuss
about anything already said here. I am in my sixties and have had
many experiences with law officers, most of them good. This one just
happened to be acting like a thug.

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Old June 17th 07, 09:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Maxwell
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Default Bend over, folks...


"jl" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jun 17, 12:58 pm, "Blueskies"
wrote:
"Scott" wrote in
messagenews:ZNCdnUzsMue6_ujbnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@brigh t.net...
So far, what it says in the article is boat and private jets. I have
neither. But, as I suspected long ago, it will
just be a metter of time before they go after my Corben and my F-150.
I still stand by my original belief that the
knee-jerk reactions are just a convenient cover to take away our
freedoms. I don't need the government to protect
me...I can use my own guns to wipe out terrorists...


Have any of you ever been walking down the street, just minding your own
business, when a cop stopped you and asked to
see your ID? Have you ever said no? Did you pay the price for saying no?
This has been going on for years,and no-one
seems to give a damn....


I was walking off some steam about 1 a. m. in Asheville, NC. A cop
stopped me and asked me what I was doing there. I was walking through
the parking lot of a bowling alley about 2 blocks from my home. I was
out getting exercise, I told him.

He asked me for I. D. I told him I had none. Then I asked him wth
he was doing shaking down local residents out for a peaceful
neighborhood stroll. He did not answer. He then demanded that I
accompany him to my home to show him who I was. I refused. "I have
done nothing wrong. You're not going to shake me down," I said. He
then threatened me with arrest for resisting, delaying and obstructing
a police officer in the performance of his duties.

I told him that by god if he arrested me he'd better have a charge
that stuck or I would be owning a 2d lien on his mobile home. "Do
you have nothing better to do than to menace private citizens on the
street doing absolutely nothing illegal?" I asked him.

"I am not "mincing" you," he said.

He started to put his hands on me. "NO, don't you touch me," I said.

After a few minutes he said, "You can go. Go ahead." I walked away
immediately.

I saw him a few weeks later about the same time and he waved at me. I
think I taught the little gnatsie a lesson.


You just got lucky. He probably didn't figure you were worth it.


 




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