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Are any other airmen uneasy about sharing the sky with these blind
robots? SMALL UAV OK'D FOR NATIONAL AIRSPACE (http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195459) The CyberBug (http://www.marketwire.com/2.0/releas...&sourceType=1), a small hand-launched unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) that comes in several models ranging from about three to 15 pounds, has been granted an experimental airworthiness certificate by the FAA. Cyber Defense Systems (http://www.cduav.com/), which builds the aircraft, says it is the first vehicle less than 100 pounds that has been approved to fly in the U.S. National Airspace System, and one of only 12 unmanned vehicles to be granted experimental certificates from the FAA. Cyber Defense successfully completed a CyberBug demonstration flight for FAA officials in Florida on June 15. The company expects to market the vehicle for military, law enforcement and commercial applications. http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archive...ll.html#195459 ============================ http://www.marketwire.com/2.0/releas...6&sourceType=1 ST. PETERSBURG, FL and ATLANTA, GA and COLUMBUS, GA--(Marketwire - June 18, 2007) - Cyber Defense Systems, Inc. (OTCBB: CYDF), a designer and developer of next generation unmanned aerial systems (UASs), announced today that the company has received an Experimental Airworthiness Certificate from the Federal Aviation Administration, the first for small hand-launched UASs under 100lbs in the United States, allowing the CyberBug™ Unmanned Aerial System to fly in the National Airspace System. To date, the U.S. aviation agency has issued only twelve EACs for UAS operations in civil airspace, with Cyber Defense receiving the latest. Cyber Defense earned the right to fly in the NAS after successfully completing a CyberBug™ demonstration flight for FAA officials at a location in Pasco County, Florida on June 15th, 2007. The CyberBug™ is a high tech asset for military, law enforcement and commercial applications. The unmanned air vehicles can be assembled in minutes and launched from an open area to provide instant aerial surveillance. The vehicles fly for up to an hour and transmit video and data to a portable ground control station. The CyberBug™ operator can safely monitor dangerous events, see around buildings, over hills and beyond line of sight. Applications include search and rescue, traffic monitoring, environmental, research, border patrol, drug interdiction and more. Billy Robinson, president and chief executive officer of Cyber Defense Systems, called receipt of an FAA EAC a "significant company milestone," noting that this achievement was obtained "through a lot of hard work on the part of the CyberBug™ team and outstanding support from the FAA." An EAC permits UAS flight operations in specified sections of the NAS. It also authorizes unmanned aircraft manufacturers to conduct research and development, crew training and marketing demonstration. ================================ http://www.proxygen.com/36/Editorial...list_type=name Photos Videos Specifications The unmanned air vehicles can be assembled in minutes and launched from an open area to provide instant aerial surveillance. The vehicles fly for up to an hour and transmit video and data to a portable ground control station. THe CyberBUG operator can safely monitor dangerous events, see around buildings, over hills and beyond line of sight. Applications include search and rescue, traffic monitoring,environmental, research, border patrol, drug interdiction and more. -Pan/tilt cameras for maximum situational awareness. Gyro-stabilization for high quality imagery. NEW GPS camera tracking and optional IR cameras. -Autonomous Flight Modes including waypoint Navigation,automatic landings and NEW convoy following. -Transparent wing materials and silent motors make the CyberBUG difficult to detect. -Available in several sizes to best meet your needs." ================= http://www.proxygen.com/36/editorial...& obj_id=1457 About the Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) The CyberBug™ is one of the first in the UAV world to offer a low cost solution to law enforcement and the Military. Providing the capability to provide routine surveillance and communication in crowded or remote locations providing authorities the ability to provide cost effective surveillance over areas without the monetary burden that typically occurs when other airborne assets or people are used. The system is truly unique in that the control station is based upon XP/Visual-Basic software. This system could be a driving force for the future development of UAV's. The CYDF system provides the owner with the ability to control the camera and UAV from areas remote to the plane. An example is that one current proposal to the DoD is that the UAV be provided to ground troops in Iraq and used in preprogrammed missions however the person watching the monitors for hostile activity would or could be located in the US with the ability to notify forces in Iraq of potential areas of concern, providing control of the cameras as well as the operation of the vehicles. The product is scalable and provides camera solution on both the small 2.6 pound platform as well as significant cameras solutions for day and night vision on the larger platform 14 pound platform which also has the capability to fly on station in a programmed or manual mode for up to an hour, traveling at speeds of 30 MPH with a camera foot print of 300 x 300 depending on day or night view. CYDF has tentative reseller agreements with several companies who provide cameras and or sensor products thus enabling Cyber to "piggy-back"; established sales channels of these reseller companies. In the recent demonstrations with Maryland State police, initial acceptance of the CyberBug™ has led both law enforcement and Military forces in several countries to believe that the CyberBug™ is ideal for use in covert missions as it is silent (electric) and the on station duration for one hour. The CyberBug™ product allows users to view data captured by sensors from a wireless product to any location throughout the world providing a significant advantage in a low cost solution to surveillance. Another scalable product recently achieving prototype deployment, the CyberScout™ is designed to operate innovative clandestine reconnaissance, surveillance, target acquisition and could be hand-carried into battle to perform hunter-killer missions. With an open access airframe fuselage, the CyberScout™ can be rapidly field-configured with a wide array of cameras, sensors, weapons, and instruments. In May, 2005 CYDF announced the successful transitional flight test of the CyberScout™. The CyberScout™ successfully lifted off entirely under its own power then completed a planned flight pattern while transitioning to forward flight. The CyberScout™ exhibited ample thrust for this test phase this test proved the current power configuration is more than adequate for lift off and hover and forward flight. The primary design goal of the CyberScout™ was to develop a small, configurable, and easily modifiable UAV aerial platform, which combines the VTOL, and hover capabilities of a helicopter with the high-speed forward flight capabilities of a fixed-wing aircraft. A secondary design objective was to "modularize" the major components of the aircraft to allow the platform to be optimally configured with different major components so that it can cost effectively meet varied mission requirements. This means that the CyberScout™ can "evolve" over time by incorporating new systems and technologies by easily upgrading major system components. The company will develop as a bi-product software that may be used by the company or its clients to model an "on demand" rendering of aircraft based upon client parameters of payload and or flight characteristics. In May, 2005 CYDF announced the successful transitional flight test of the Cyber Scout. The Cyber Scout successfully lifted off from the test stand entirely under its own power. The Cyber Scout exhibited ample thrust for this test phase this test proved the current power configuration is more than adequate for lift off and hover and forward flight. When fully developed the VTOL capable CyberScout™ is expected to: Operate in congested urban and jungle environments, desert and mountainous terrain Perform traditional UAV surveillance, border patrol, and wide area search and sensing missions Fly to a location, land and use their own power to operate surveillance monitoring activities Launch and return without a runway enabling deployment from small, concealed locations, naval ships, and building rooftops. The company plans to produce two standardized units to accommodate small and large payloads of up to 40 pounds including fuel. All units will have basic functions for low-cost, clandestine reconnaissance, surveillance, and target acquisition. The CyberScout™ is being designed with features designed to enhance mission flexibility and survivability such as reduced infrared and acoustic signatures, fully autonomous day/night capability, and tactical-level endurance at any airspeed from hover to 300 knots. The CyberScout™ innovative designs combine the benefits of VTOL aircraft with high-speed forward flight. Additional planned features include an obstacle avoidance system that allows autonomous urban operation and an automatic flight stabilization system permits the aircraft to constantly maintain straight and level horizontal flight. The CyberScout™ essentially combines the capabilities of a helicopter with the advantages of a fixed wing aircraft. These capabilities include: VTOL - Vertical Takeoff or Landing (VTOL) capability allows launch and recovery without a runway, enabling deployment from small, concealed locations, naval ships, and building rooftops. Hover - the ability of the aircraft to remain airborne with no forward speed is useful for monitoring, surveillance missions, urban navigation, and for laser designation of targets. Hover capability is also useful for certain weapons deployment and other missions. The CyberScout™ does not have the disadvantages of conventional helicopters: Exposed rotor blades - the exposed rotor blades of conventional helicopters can strike trees, power lines, buildings, rocks, birds, or contact the ground with catastrophic results. Exposed rotor blades also pose a safety hazard to nearby personnel, and make the aircraft more vulnerable to hostile weapons fire. The CyberScout™ has no exposed blades (nor does the CyberScout™ have a tail rotor), as they are enclosed and protected inside of the ducted fan assembly. Slow forward speed - conventional helicopter-based designs do not offer the high-speed forward flight capability of fixed wing aircraft, reducing response time and limiting cruising range. The CyberScout™ can tilt its ducted fan such that it acts like a very large propeller, and utilize its wings for lift and control. Mission assignments for the CyberScout™ in the near future will include homeland security and medical re-supply. The Coast Guard and Border Patrol, parts of the newly formed Department of Homeland Security, already have plans to deploy UAV's to watch coastal waters, patrol the nation's borders, and protect major oil and gas pipelines. Congressional support exists for using UAV's for border security. During a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on homeland defense, it was stated that although it would not be appropriate for the military to patrol the border, domestic agencies using UAV's could carry out this mission. ======================================== On a similar but larger note: The Boeing Company http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/index.html Boeing Completes First Flight of A160T Hummingbird Unmanned Helicopter LE BOURGET, France, June 18, 2007 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] successfully completed the first flight of the A160T Hummingbird unmanned rotorcraft June 15 from an airfield near Victorville, Calif. The A160T, a turbine-powered version of the innovative piston-powered A160 helicopter, features unmatched range, endurance, payload and altitude for an unmanned rotorcraft. "Today's Hover-In-Ground Effect flight is our first step in providing the warfighter the key element of our approach to providing persistent intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance coverage that only an unmanned helicopter of this type can provide," said Jim Martin, Boeing Advanced Systems A160 program manager, after the flight. During the 12-minute hover flight to verify vehicle and subsystem operation, the A160T met all test objectives and collected extensive flight control, propulsion and subsystem operation data. The test marked the 37th flight overall for the A160 program and the first in a series of flights that will demonstrate endurance levels greater than 18 hours. The aircraft used during the tests is the first of 10 A160Ts Boeing Advanced Systems is building for the Defense Advanced Projects Research Agency and the U.S. Special Operations Command. The Hummingbird features a unique optimum speed rotor technology that significantly improves overall performance efficiency by adjusting the rotor system's revolutions per minute at different altitudes, gross weights and cruise speeds. The autonomous unmanned aircraft, measuring 35 feet long with a 36-foot rotor diameter, eventually will fly more than 140 knots with a ceiling of 25,000 to 30,000 ft. (high hover capability up to 15,000 ft.) for up to 20 hours. Operational A160Ts will be capable of persistent intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; target acquisition; direct action; communication relay and precision re-supply missions. A unit of The Boeing Company, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems http://www.boeing.com/ids/index.html is one of the world's largest space and defense businesses specializing in innovative and capabilities-driven customer solutions. Headquartered in St. Louis, Boeing Integrated Defense Systems is a $32.4 billion business with 72,000 employees worldwide. |
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Are any other airmen uneasy about sharing the sky with these blind robots? If you like that you are going to LOVE this. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=11250026 |
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:27:31 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in : Larry Dighera wrote: Are any other airmen uneasy about sharing the sky with these blind robots? If you like that you are going to LOVE this. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=11250026 So, the plan is to first fly cargo in unmanned aerial vehicles to demonstrate to the public that UAVs are safe, then start UAV passenger service, ostensibly because it's cheaper, there's no chance for pilot error, nor hijacking. I'm highly skeptical. It's not so much that it can't be successfully accomplished for technological reasons, but more that it will take decades of development to produce a system that is anywhere nearly as reliable as our current human piloted system, IMO. And then there's the issue of Electro Magnetic Pulse (EMP) and Coronal Mass Ejections (CME). Should an aircraft, indeed any electronic device, be subject to short duration EMP, it's circuits could be rendered permanently or temporarily inoperative depending on the strength of the pulse at the location of the aircraft. Without electronic guidance and control, how is a UAV supposed to function? A human pilot, relatively immune to EMP, can shoot the stars for navigation and hand fly for control. I know there are electronic circuits that are supposed to be fast enough to protect against EMP, but it seems to me there would be a delay in circuit functionality during the time the system reset itself after encountering an EMP. During that time period, the electronics wouldn't be performing their normal functions. Presumably the F-16, and other nuclear delivery systems, would be equipped with this sort of protection. In the event a UAV is aloft during a CME episode, its fate would be similar depending on the strength of the incoming radiation and it's likely the event duration will be substantially longer, even hours. While humans are more vulnerable to CME, the effects would likely be delayed long enough to permit the aircraft to be flown to a safe landing. For fly-by-wire aircraft, nonfunctional electronics spells loss of control in either scenario. And if NextGen ATC will be solely reliant on satellite communications, it will be extremely vulnerable to CME events. But neither Congress, the FAA, Robert Poole, Boeing, nor LockMart has mentioned that little fact for some reason. Also not mentioned is the UAV's lack of compliance with the regulatory see-and-avoid mandate. I doubt seriously that human aircraft pilots will become obsolete within my lifetime. |
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Do I have to include celestial nav in the next editions of my books? Would
very many current pilots recognize a bubble sextant if it bit them in the butt? Bob Gardner "Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:27:31 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in : Larry Dighera wrote: Are any other airmen uneasy about sharing the sky with these blind robots? If you like that you are going to LOVE this. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=11250026 So, the plan is to first fly cargo in unmanned aerial vehicles to demonstrate to the public that UAVs are safe, then start UAV passenger service, ostensibly because it's cheaper, there's no chance for pilot error, nor hijacking. I'm highly skeptical. It's not so much that it can't be successfully accomplished for technological reasons, but more that it will take decades of development to produce a system that is anywhere nearly as reliable as our current human piloted system, IMO. And then there's the issue of Electro Magnetic Pulse (EMP) and Coronal Mass Ejections (CME). Should an aircraft, indeed any electronic device, be subject to short duration EMP, it's circuits could be rendered permanently or temporarily inoperative depending on the strength of the pulse at the location of the aircraft. Without electronic guidance and control, how is a UAV supposed to function? A human pilot, relatively immune to EMP, can shoot the stars for navigation and hand fly for control. I know there are electronic circuits that are supposed to be fast enough to protect against EMP, but it seems to me there would be a delay in circuit functionality during the time the system reset itself after encountering an EMP. During that time period, the electronics wouldn't be performing their normal functions. Presumably the F-16, and other nuclear delivery systems, would be equipped with this sort of protection. In the event a UAV is aloft during a CME episode, its fate would be similar depending on the strength of the incoming radiation and it's likely the event duration will be substantially longer, even hours. While humans are more vulnerable to CME, the effects would likely be delayed long enough to permit the aircraft to be flown to a safe landing. For fly-by-wire aircraft, nonfunctional electronics spells loss of control in either scenario. And if NextGen ATC will be solely reliant on satellite communications, it will be extremely vulnerable to CME events. But neither Congress, the FAA, Robert Poole, Boeing, nor LockMart has mentioned that little fact for some reason. Also not mentioned is the UAV's lack of compliance with the regulatory see-and-avoid mandate. I doubt seriously that human aircraft pilots will become obsolete within my lifetime. |
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 16:01:50 -0700, "Bob Gardner"
wrote in : Do I have to include celestial nav in the next editions of my books? Would very many current pilots recognize a bubble sextant if it bit them in the butt? I know you're just joking, but my point was, that while the electronically controlled UAV would be out of commission in the event of an EMP or CME, it would be possible, if not practicable, for the human piloted aircraft to continue on course by dead reckoning at least. |
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![]() "Bob Gardner" wrote in message ... Would very many current pilots recognize a bubble sextant if it bit them in the butt? Hmmm, kinky...I think. |
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![]() "Larry Dighera" wrote in message ... On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:27:31 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in : Larry Dighera wrote: Are any other airmen uneasy about sharing the sky with these blind robots? If you like that you are going to LOVE this. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=11250026 So, the plan is to first fly cargo in unmanned aerial vehicles to demonstrate to the public that UAVs are safe, then start UAV passenger service, ostensibly because it's cheaper, there's no chance for pilot error, nor hijacking. I'm highly skeptical. It's not so much that it can't be successfully accomplished for technological reasons, but more that it will take decades of development to produce a system that is anywhere nearly as reliable as our current human piloted system, IMO. And then there's the issue of Electro Magnetic Pulse (EMP) and Coronal Mass Ejections (CME). Should an aircraft, indeed any electronic device, be subject to short duration EMP, it's circuits could be rendered permanently or temporarily inoperative depending on the strength of the pulse at the location of the aircraft. Without electronic guidance and control, how is a UAV supposed to function? A human pilot, relatively immune to EMP, can shoot the stars for navigation and hand fly for control. Just about all Airbuses are FBW. I don't think there is any fly by cable backup... |
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![]() Also not mentioned is the UAV's lack of compliance with the regulatory see-and-avoid mandate. I doubt seriously that human aircraft pilots will become obsolete within my lifetime. They will still require one pilot and a dog in automated airplanes... |
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On Jun 21, 12:27 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote: Larry Dighera wrote: Are any other airmen uneasy about sharing the sky with these blind robots? If you like that you are going to LOVE this. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=11250026 There will still have to be one pilot and a dog onboard for backup... |
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On Jun 21, 12:27 pm, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote: Larry Dighera wrote: Are any other airmen uneasy about sharing the sky with these blind robots? If you like that you are going to LOVE this. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=11250026 Hey, they still will need at least one pilot and a dog in these planes... |
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