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Old July 17th 07, 09:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
john smith[_2_]
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DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON TAKEOFF, SANK DOWN ONTO RUNWAY WITH GEAR RETRACTED, FORT
LAUDERDALE, FL

Is this an example of putting the gear lever up before advancing the
throttle for takeoff?
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Old July 17th 07, 09:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ross
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john smith wrote:
DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT ON TAKEOFF, SANK DOWN ONTO RUNWAY WITH GEAR RETRACTED, FORT
LAUDERDALE, FL

Is this an example of putting the gear lever up before advancing the
throttle for takeoff?


My father was an B-25 instructor in CA during WWII. He said some of the
cadets would do this and the CO would be real mad when the B-25 settled
back to earth.

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Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
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Old July 17th 07, 10:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Ross" wrote)
My father was an B-25 instructor in CA during WWII. He said some of the
cadets would do this and the CO would be real mad when the B-25 settled
back to earth.



B-25 ....BOMBER!

I'm with the CO on this one. :-)


Paul-Mont


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Old July 17th 07, 10:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
"Montblack" wrote:

("Ross" wrote)
My father was an B-25 instructor in CA during WWII. He said some of the
cadets would do this and the CO would be real mad when the B-25 settled
back to earth.



B-25 ....BOMBER!

I'm with the CO on this one. :-)


Paul-Mont


Bombers have an advantage over other types on these types of takeoffs.
When you feel the aircraft starting to settle, you can just hit the button
and drop your load. The sudden decrease in aircraft weight will give you
the extra performance boost you need to start climbing.
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Old July 17th 07, 11:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gatt
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"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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I'm with the CO on this one. :-)

Paul-Mont


Bombers have an advantage over other types on these types of takeoffs.
When you feel the aircraft starting to settle, you can just hit the button
and drop your load. The sudden decrease in aircraft weight will give you
the extra performance boost you need to start climbing.


I'm sure that's very comforting to the folks aft of the bomb bay. :

-c


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Old July 18th 07, 02:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Roy Smith" wrote

Bombers have an advantage over other types on these types of takeoffs.
When you feel the aircraft starting to settle, you can just hit the button
and drop your load. The sudden decrease in aircraft weight will give you
the extra performance boost you need to start climbing.


But, even IF the bombs were hot, it would be helpful if the bomb bay doors
were opened, first. g
--
Jim in NC


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Old July 18th 07, 05:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ron Wanttaja
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:37:07 -0400, "Morgans" wrote:


"Roy Smith" wrote

Bombers have an advantage over other types on these types of takeoffs.
When you feel the aircraft starting to settle, you can just hit the button
and drop your load. The sudden decrease in aircraft weight will give you
the extra performance boost you need to start climbing.


But, even IF the bombs were hot, it would be helpful if the bomb bay doors
were opened, first. g


IIRC, the B-17 (and probably all other US bombers) had a safety cable across the
lower part of the bomb bay which would open the doors if a bomb inadvertently
dropped.

Ron Wanttaja
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Old July 19th 07, 06:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ricky
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On Jul 17, 5:10 pm, Roy Smith wrote:
In article ,

"Montblack" wrote:
("Ross" wrote)
My father was an B-25 instructor in CA during WWII. He said some of the
cadets would do this and the CO would be real mad when the B-25 settled
back to earth.


B-25 ....BOMBER!


I'm with the CO on this one. :-)


Paul-Mont


Bombers have an advantage over other types on these types of takeoffs.
When you feel the aircraft starting to settle, you can just hit the button
and drop your load. The sudden decrease in aircraft weight will give you
the extra performance boost you need to start climbing.


When you say "drop your load" do you mean drop the bombs?
Is it the decrease in weight or the exploding bombs that gave that
"extra performance boost you need to start climbing?"

Ricky

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Old July 20th 07, 08:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Roger (K8RI)
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:00:45 -0000, Ricky
wrote:

On Jul 17, 5:10 pm, Roy Smith wrote:
In article ,

"Montblack" wrote:
("Ross" wrote)
My father was an B-25 instructor in CA during WWII. He said some of the
cadets would do this and the CO would be real mad when the B-25 settled
back to earth.


B-25 ....BOMBER!


I'm with the CO on this one. :-)


Paul-Mont


Bombers have an advantage over other types on these types of takeoffs.
When you feel the aircraft starting to settle, you can just hit the button
and drop your load. The sudden decrease in aircraft weight will give you
the extra performance boost you need to start climbing.


When you say "drop your load" do you mean drop the bombs?
Is it the decrease in weight or the exploding bombs that gave that
"extra performance boost you need to start climbing?"


They shouldn't travel far enough for the fuses to be armed. That's
what that little propeller does.

Ricky

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Old July 17th 07, 11:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Gatt
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"Ross" wrote in message
...

Is this an example of putting the gear lever up before advancing the
throttle for takeoff?


My father was an B-25 instructor in CA during WWII. He said some of the
cadets would do this and the CO would be real mad when the B-25 settled
back to earth.


Some/all B-17s will do that too. When Evergreen turned me loose in their
bird (flipped on the battery and open the bomb bay for some visiting WWII
vets) I was specifically briefed NOT to bump the landing gear lever or it
would be a very bad day at the hangar. I've had more than one nightmare of
doing just that since.

When I started flying retractables, it really spooked me out all over again
for a bit.

-c


 




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