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Well, for a while I thought a new day had dawned... Here's the
scenario: Launched VFR from Saginaw headed to parts 28 miles south of Cleveland... 19 Miles North of Detroit City Airport (I refuse to call it the other name) I called ATC and asked for VFR following and Lake Services... The Detroit controller gave me a squawk and we had a beautiful Sunday morning ride across Ontario and Lake Erie... The viz was a blinding 70 miles or so... A bit south of Pelee Island Detroit turned me over to Cleveland - a perky female controller who was working three frequencies simultaneously this gal has talent took over... She immediately advised I could let her know when I wanted to start down from 7500, that I was cleared into the Cleveland B (20 miles ahead), and that she would keep me advised of traffic... This is 4 star treatment... I felt like a VIP... However, not to worry it didn't last... Coming back that afternoon I picked up VFR flight following shortly after lift off , the male controller was pleasant enough but he wouldn't let me climb out of the 5 O'Clock thermals into the oh-so-sacred airspace of the Cleveland B, so we jerked and lurched our way west until we were clear of the B before I could begin to climb... Then at the instant I neared the US- Canada line across the lake he comes back with, "leaving my airspace, squawk VFR, resume own navigation, frequency changed aproved.". . . whump! He just dumped me out into international airspace without controller contact, without a handoff, without even a suggested frequency... Now this is the ATC we have all come to know and love... Welcome back to the SOS... Knowing I had met the regulations by contacting ATC ( until he dumped me) and knowing the Canadians couldn't care less, I shrugged, dialed up 1200 on the squawk box, and Fat Albert continued to drone straight ahead (punctutated by the occasional lean mixture hiccup) through the mild turbulence at 6500... We crossed canadian airspace (eh) and re- entered the hew hess of hey just east of the Detroit B.... Still a glorious afternoon, if a bit hot and bumpy... denny |
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I feel your pain... check out our flight path yesterday coming back to STE
from Midway http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N813DL We darn near wore out the heading bug twisting and turning as we were vectored up, over, and around the OSH arrival traffic coming from the south west. Denny, which airport at Saginaw are you based? Jim "Denny" wrote in message ps.com... Well, for a while I thought a new day had dawned... Here's the scenario: Launched VFR from Saginaw headed to parts 28 miles south of Cleveland... 19 Miles North of Detroit City Airport (I refuse to call it the other name) I called ATC and asked for VFR following and Lake Services... The Detroit controller gave me a squawk and we had a beautiful Sunday morning ride across Ontario and Lake Erie... The viz was a blinding 70 miles or so... A bit south of Pelee Island Detroit turned me over to Cleveland - a perky female controller who was working three frequencies simultaneously this gal has talent took over... She immediately advised I could let her know when I wanted to start down from 7500, that I was cleared into the Cleveland B (20 miles ahead), and that she would keep me advised of traffic... This is 4 star treatment... I felt like a VIP... However, not to worry it didn't last... Coming back that afternoon I picked up VFR flight following shortly after lift off , the male controller was pleasant enough but he wouldn't let me climb out of the 5 O'Clock thermals into the oh-so-sacred airspace of the Cleveland B, so we jerked and lurched our way west until we were clear of the B before I could begin to climb... Then at the instant I neared the US- Canada line across the lake he comes back with, "leaving my airspace, squawk VFR, resume own navigation, frequency changed aproved.". . . whump! He just dumped me out into international airspace without controller contact, without a handoff, without even a suggested frequency... Now this is the ATC we have all come to know and love... Welcome back to the SOS... Knowing I had met the regulations by contacting ATC ( until he dumped me) and knowing the Canadians couldn't care less, I shrugged, dialed up 1200 on the squawk box, and Fat Albert continued to drone straight ahead (punctutated by the occasional lean mixture hiccup) through the mild turbulence at 6500... We crossed canadian airspace (eh) and re- entered the hew hess of hey just east of the Detroit B.... Still a glorious afternoon, if a bit hot and bumpy... denny |
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Denny wrote:
Then at the instant I neared the US- Canada line across the lake he comes back with, "leaving my airspace, squawk VFR, resume own navigation, frequency changed aproved.". . . whump! He just dumped me out into international airspace without controller contact, without a handoff, without even a suggested frequency... Now this is the ATC we have all come to know and love... Welcome back to the SOS... Flight following is provided to VFR flights when traffic and work loads permit. They are also not required to hand you off to a center controller when you leave the airspace. |
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