The F-16 control stick?

Does it move when say when the pilot wants to climb, or does it have
pressure sensors on a rigid stick so the stick can inform the
computers the pilots hand is pressing on the front of the stick and he
wants the F-16 to climb?


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the wind - not with it."
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Does it move when say when the pilot wants to climb, or does it have
pressure sensors on a rigid stick so the stick can inform the
computers the pilots hand is pressing on the front of the stick and he
wants the F-16 to climb?

Initially it was a force-sensing stick, but later they added some "play" to
it.

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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:53:37 GMT, "Bill Silvey"
wrote:

"Christopher" wrote in message

Does it move when say when the pilot wants to climb, or does it have
pressure sensors on a rigid stick so the stick can inform the
computers the pilots hand is pressing on the front of the stick and he
wants the F-16 to climb?

Initially it was a force-sensing stick, but later they added some "play" to
it.


By *play* how many degrees can the pilot now move it?



Christopher
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Kites rise highest against
the wind - not with it."
Winston Churchill

Does it move when say when the pilot wants to climb, or does it have
pressure sensors on a rigid stick so the stick can inform the
computers the pilots hand is pressing on the front of the stick and he
wants the F-16 to climb?


Both. However, the purpose of the movement is only to provide artificial feel
or feedback to the pilot. I read in the flight manual (a while back) that the
stick moves either 1/4 inch or 1/8 inch longitudinally and laterally. I don't
know how many degrees of pitch and roll movement about the translation point
this equates to. For all intents and purposes, the stick is rigid. I think
that General Dynamics incorporated this feature into the second block of
F-16A/B aircraft.





Kurt Todoroff


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Consent, not compulsion.

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On 20 Sep 2003 18:54:19 GMT, ELETEME (Kurt R.
Todoroff) wrote:

Does it move when say when the pilot wants to climb, or does it have
pressure sensors on a rigid stick so the stick can inform the
computers the pilots hand is pressing on the front of the stick and he
wants the F-16 to climb?


Both. However, the purpose of the movement is only to provide artificial feel
or feedback to the pilot. I read in the flight manual (a while back) that the
stick moves either 1/4 inch or 1/8 inch longitudinally and laterally. I don't
know how many degrees of pitch and roll movement about the translation point
this equates to. For all intents and purposes, the stick is rigid. I think
that General Dynamics incorporated this feature into the second block of
F-16A/B aircraft.





Kurt Todoroff


Markets, not mandates and mob rule.
Consent, not compulsion.

Remove "DELETEME" from my address to reply

Thanks for the thoughtful post, Ross. Joe Bill's article was fascinating!

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...
http://www.codeonemagazine.com/archi...ct_86/cockpit/

Explains it better than I can...

Ross "Roscoe" Dillon
USAF Flight Tester
(B-2, F-16, F-15, F-5, T-37, T-38, C-5, QF-106)



On 20 Sep 2003 18:54:19 GMT, ELETEME (Kurt R.
Todoroff) wrote:

Does it move when say when the pilot wants to climb, or does it have
pressure sensors on a rigid stick so the stick can inform the
computers the pilots hand is pressing on the front of the stick and
he
wants the F-16 to climb?


Both. However, the purpose of the movement is only to provide artificial
feel
or feedback to the pilot. I read in the flight manual (a while back)
that the
stick moves either 1/4 inch or 1/8 inch longitudinally and laterally. I
don't
know how many degrees of pitch and roll movement about the translation
point
this equates to. For all intents and purposes, the stick is rigid. I
think
that General Dynamics incorporated this feature into the second block of
F-16A/B aircraft.





Kurt Todoroff


Markets, not mandates and mob rule.
Consent, not compulsion.

Remove "DELETEME" from my address to reply

"Christopher" wrote in message
...
Initially it was a force-sensing stick, but later they added some "play"
to
it.


By *play* how many degrees can the pilot now move it?


Check out http://www.ultra-msi.com/mini.html, a supplier to the aerospace
industry of force-joyticks.

Si

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:06:29 +0100, "Simon Robbins"
wrote:

"Christopher" wrote in message
...
Initially it was a force-sensing stick, but later they added some "play"
to
it.


By *play* how many degrees can the pilot now move it?


Check out http://www.ultra-msi.com/mini.html, a supplier to the aerospace
industry of force-joyticks.

Just did and got this:

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

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Please try the following:

If you typed the page address in the Address bar, make sure that it is
spelled correctly.

Open the www.ultra-msi.com home page, and then look for links to the
information you want.
Click the Back button to try another link.
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More information:
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Christopher
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Kites rise highest against
the wind - not with it."
Winston Churchill

"Christopher" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 21 Sep 2003 13:06:29 +0100, "Simon Robbins"
wrote:

"Christopher" wrote in message
...
Initially it was a force-sensing stick, but later they added some
"play"
to
it.


By *play* how many degrees can the pilot now move it?


Check out http://www.ultra-msi.com/mini.html, a supplier to the aerospace
industry of force-joyticks.

Just did and got this:

The page cannot be found
The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name
changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

I tried and got the correct page.

Tex