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I was watching the IMAX movie on Flight at the Pensacola Museum the other
day, featuring the Blue Angels and their F-18 Hornets. One of the on-board cameras kept showing a gear door up close that look mangled or shredded, or cut in some sort of jagged pattern on one of the Hornets. This seemed strange, since the aircraft are supposedly kept in immaculate condition. Not knowing anything about the F18 configuration, is this gear door condition normal? Best regards, --Clay |
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![]() "Clay N4AOX" wrote in message ... I was watching the IMAX movie on Flight at the Pensacola Museum the other day, featuring the Blue Angels and their F-18 Hornets. One of the on-board cameras kept showing a gear door up close that look mangled or shredded, or cut in some sort of jagged pattern on one of the Hornets. This seemed strange, since the aircraft are supposedly kept in immaculate condition. Not knowing anything about the F18 configuration, is this gear door condition normal? Best regards, --Clay I haven't seen the on board film, but I can tell you this much. The public only sees an extremely smooth picture from the ground when looking at the Diamond of ANY acro team. What ACTUALLY goes on inside the formation in real life would probably scare the pants off most people. I can tell you it gets mighty "twitchy" in there at times. It's quite common to have minor contact and indeed it has happened many times. Usually you just repair whatever has "dinged" and touch it up. Sometimes however, those "dings" can get fairly serious. I remember one time standing on the ramp with Skip Umstead of the Blues looking at what was left of an outer wing panel on one of the F4's. As they say, "**** happens", The name of the game in the formation acro business is keeping all the "****" going in one direction!!. What you saw could easily have been an in-flight ding. I would be surprised however to learn that the Blues didn't edit it out before release to the public. You usually see this stuff during a training session, not on an Imax screen for viewing by the general public. Things are constantly changing however, and it could very well be that the Blues PA officer and the powers that be have decided that it's ok to share this stuff with the public these days. In the old days, in-flight damage was usually kept in house except on rare occasions. Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Commercial Pilot/CFI Retired For personal e-mail, use dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt (replacezwithe) |
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The name of the game in the formation acro
business is keeping all the "****" going in one direction!!. I think in the movie "Threshold: The Blue Angels Experience" they called it a 500mph skid mark or something to that effect. -John *You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North American* |
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![]() "Ditch" wrote in message ... The name of the game in the formation acro business is keeping all the "****" going in one direction!!. I think in the movie "Threshold: The Blue Angels Experience" they called it a 500mph skid mark or something to that effect. That would be Skip Umstead's team. They were the team involved with "Threshold". Skip was a great guy and I miss him. It was he who accepted for the Blue Angels , charter membership in the Fighter Pilots Fellowship. Skip and Mike Murphy collided at Lakehurst in the F4 Diamond arrival there in July 73. Both were killed. I was on the way there to have lunch with them when it happened. Yup! Those 500mph skid marks can get nasty at times. It's a deadly dangerous business. Through the years that encompassed my tenure with airshows , counting our jet acro team friends, my wife and I can count 32 pilots we knew personally, many of whom I flew with professionally, who were killed....many in mid airs. I lost five friends in two separate mid airs in the same race at the Cape May National Air Races on June 5th in 71 during the T6 race there. Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Commercial Pilot/CFI Retired For personal e-mail, use dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt (replacezwithe) |
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Small world indeed..I used to work at Northrop with a member of that team as
well..Kevin O'Mara who flew Blue Angel #2 in the '70-'71 timeframe..He also was CO of VMFA-232..Not sure if he's still at Northrop or not..One helluva nice guy.. |
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![]() "EB Jet" wrote in message ... Small world indeed..I used to work at Northrop with a member of that team as well..Kevin O'Mara who flew Blue Angel #2 in the '70-'71 timeframe..He also was CO of VMFA-232..Not sure if he's still at Northrop or not..One helluva nice guy.. That was Harley Hall's team. Skip was solo, then lead solo in 71 on that team before he took the team over. There were a lot of great people associated with that team. Dick Schram was their public affairs officer. Knew Dick for many years as I did his father dick Sr; (the flying professor ) one of the finest J3 jockeys and comedy act air show pilots who ever lived. Dick Sr. is one of the pilots on our list of friends we have lost through the years. Dick Jr. is also gone now. I don't know about O'Mara. You were at Northrop? Did you happen to know Bob Elder and Hank Choteau by any chance? Great guys to work with. Northrop asked me to do the narration for the YF17 Cobra demonstration when you guys brought the airplane down to Pax for the Navy to look over. We had some great times together that weekend :-))) Dudley Henriques International Fighter Pilots Fellowship Commercial Pilot/CFI Retired For personal e-mail, use dhenriquesATzarthlinkDOTnzt (replacezwithe) |
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Ditch wrote:
I think in the movie "Threshold: The Blue Angels Experience" they called it a 500mph skid mark or something to that effect. I have some patients who've left those behind. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN http://www.mortimerschnerd.com |
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote:
Ditch wrote: I think in the movie "Threshold: The Blue Angels Experience" they called it a 500mph skid mark or something to that effect. I have some patients who've left those behind. ....and there's no telling which of the two is the most feared I'll bet. -- -Gord. |
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My favorite "Blue Angels moment" was when I got to walk around the
planes (back when they were flying A-4s), and saw the dents in the sides of their fuselages. "Geez, those are some beat-up old planes," I thought. Then I noticed that the dents were the exact same size and shape as the tips of their wings... and were fresh. -- cirby at cfl.rr.com Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations. Slam on brakes accordingly. |
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I noticed the exact same thing when I saw the film a couple of years ago. I
thought I was the only one who noticed!! I wonder if it was part of a hack job needed to mount the IMAX camera? I've saw the real planes up close soon after that and saw no damage at all. "Clay N4AOX" wrote in message ... I was watching the IMAX movie on Flight at the Pensacola Museum the other day, featuring the Blue Angels and their F-18 Hornets. One of the on-board cameras kept showing a gear door up close that look mangled or shredded, or cut in some sort of jagged pattern on one of the Hornets. This seemed strange, since the aircraft are supposedly kept in immaculate condition. Not knowing anything about the F18 configuration, is this gear door condition normal? Best regards, --Clay |
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