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Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly related to aviation.) Is this legal? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly related to aviation.) Is this legal? If they use a nebulous term, such as "safety", it probably is. |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com... Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly related to aviation.) So you can't park your car in your hangar while you're flying your airplane? Is this legal? Possibly. Is it right? No. |
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Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly related to aviation.) So you can't park your car in your hangar while you're flying your airplane? No, they specifically okay that practice in the lease. But bikes, cars, motorcycles, and anything "non-aeronautical" is banned (according to their reading of the rules) at all other times -- even if there is ample room around the aircraft. In my opinion, this is a gross mis-reading of the FARs, which were put in place to make sure that airport hangars were not used as cheap storage units for boats and other non-aircraft. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message ups.com... In my opinion, this is a gross mis-reading of the FARs, which were put in place to make sure that airport hangars were not used as cheap storage units for boats and other non-aircraft. What FARs cover hangar leases? |
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What FARs cover hangar leases?
Yeah. I was wondering that misself. Maybe part "86" Hmmm , it reads:"..any item not directly related to operating a hangared aircraft must be "86'd", kaput, nada, outta dere.." -- Message posted via AviationKB.com http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums...ation/200708/1 |
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What FARs cover hangar leases?
It's called "Grant Assurance 29". Here ya go: http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...assurances.pdf Specifically Grant Assurance #29 says this: 29. Airport Layout Plan. a. It will keep up to date at all times an airport layout plan of the airport showing (1) boundaries of the airport and all proposed additions thereto, together with the boundaries of all offsite areas owned or controlled by the sponsor for airport purposes and proposed additions thereto; (2) the location and nature of all existing and proposed airport facilities and structures (such as runways, taxiways, aprons, terminal buildings, hangars and roads), including all proposed extensions and reductions of existing airport facilities; and (3) the location of all existing and proposed nonaviation areas and of all existing improvements thereon. Such airport layout plans and each amendment, revision, or modification thereof, shall be subject to the approval of the Secretary which approval shall be evidenced by the signature of a duly authorized representative of the Secretary on the face of the airport layout plan. The sponsor will not make or permit any changes or alterations in the airport or any of its facilities which are not in conformity with the airport layout plan as approved by the Secretary and which might, in the opinion of the Secretary, adversely affect the safety, utility or efficiency of the airport. b. If a change or alteration in the airport or the facilities is made which the Secretary determines adversely affects the safety, utility, or efficiency of any federally owned, leased, or funded property on or off the airport and which is not in conformity with the airport layout plan as approved by the Secretary, the owner or operator will, if requested, by the Secretary (1) eliminate such adverse effect in a manner approved by the Secretary; or (2) bear all costs of relocating such property (or replacement thereof) to a site acceptable to the Secretary and all costs of restoring such property (or replacement thereof) to the level of safety, utility, efficiency, and cost of operation existing before the unapproved change in the airport or its facilities. The airport commission is using this as justification for the ban, since allowing the hangars to be used to "store" stuff would be a "change or alteration in the facilities" and put our FAA grant money at stake. It's all BS, if you ask me. I think it's a gross mis-reading of the rule. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On Aug 28, 3:11 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
What FARs cover hangar leases? It's called "Grant Assurance 29". Here ya go: http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...nt_assurances/... Specifically Grant Assurance #29 says this: Doesn't that assume that the hangers will build with AIF? -Robert |
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In article . com,
Jay Honeck wrote: The airport commission is using this as justification for the ban, since allowing the hangars to be used to "store" stuff would be a "change or alteration in the facilities" and put our FAA grant money at stake. NOT allowing this stuff would be a change. People have been using hangars to store stuff since the beginning... -- Bob Noel (goodness, please trim replies!!!) |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
What FARs cover hangar leases? It's called "Grant Assurance 29". Here ya go: http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...assurances.pdf Specifically Grant Assurance #29 says this: I don't think this is an FAR though. Matt |
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