Mounties Electrocute Airline Passenger

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reaction to airline delays?


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Man dies after Taser shock by police at Vancouver airport
Last Updated: Sunday, October 14, 2007 | 5:04 PM ET

A man in his 40s died early Sunday morning after RCMP jolted him with
a Taser at the Vancouver International Airport, police said.

Airport security called the Mounties for assistance after an
unidentified man began pounding on windows and throwing chairs and
computer equipment in the customs area shortly after arriving on an
international flight at 1:30 a.m., Richmond RCMP Sgt. Pierre Lemaitre
told CBC News.

"We arrived and tried to calm the man," Lemaitre said. "We tried
through gestures to get him to put his hands down on the desk … to no
avail."

When he ignored orders to calm down, police used a stun gun on the
man.

The man dropped to the floor and police said it took three officers to
handcuff him. He then lost consciousness and appeared to go into
cardiac arrest and was pronounced dead at the airport, the CBC's Chris
Brown reported.

Few other details have been disclosed other than the man spoke an
Eastern European language and a flight from Poland touched down about
an hour before the incident, Brown said.

Taser devices are controversial because of the dozen North American
deaths resulting from their use. There has been debate about how safe
these devices are when dealing with certain kinds of people who are
delirious or wound up, Brown said.

Police are investigating and a toxicology report will be done to
determine whether there were drugs in the man's system. They will be
interviewing customs officers and flight attendants, Brown reported.

International arrivals were rerouted but there were no delays in
flight schedules.

Larry Dighera wrote in
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Is airline passenger abuse on the rise as a result of passenger
reaction to airline delays?


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Man dies after Taser shock by police at Vancouver airport
Last Updated: Sunday, October 14, 2007 | 5:04 PM ET

A man in his 40s died early Sunday morning after RCMP jolted him with
a Taser at the Vancouver International Airport, police said.

Airport security called the Mounties for assistance after an
unidentified man began pounding on windows and throwing chairs and
computer equipment in the customs area shortly after arriving on an
international flight at 1:30 a.m., Richmond RCMP Sgt. Pierre Lemaitre
told CBC News.

"We arrived and tried to calm the man," Lemaitre said. "We tried
through gestures to get him to put his hands down on the desk … to no
avail."

When he ignored orders to calm down, police used a stun gun on the
man.

The man dropped to the floor and police said it took three officers to
handcuff him. He then lost consciousness and appeared to go into
cardiac arrest and was pronounced dead at the airport, the CBC's Chris
Brown reported.

Few other details have been disclosed other than the man spoke an
Eastern European language and a flight from Poland touched down about
an hour before the incident, Brown said.

Taser devices are controversial because of the dozen North American
deaths resulting from their use. There has been debate about how safe
these devices are when dealing with certain kinds of people who are
delirious or wound up, Brown said.

Police are investigating and a toxicology report will be done to
determine whether there were drugs in the man's system. They will be
interviewing customs officers and flight attendants, Brown reported.

International arrivals were rerouted but there were no delays in
flight schedules.


Normally I loath airprt security. But i hate asshole pax even more..
too good for him, I say!

They should do the same to people who talk in movie theatres.


Bertie

The invention needed is a taser that can be aimed at a usernet poster
thru the screen, maybe configured so that whenever certain ones press
send they get a jolt.


I'm good at the big ideas, I'll leave it up to the engineers who post
here to work out the details.

..Tina

Tina wrote in news:1192625434.404953.245950
@y27g2000pre.googlegroups.com:

The invention needed is a taser that can be aimed at a usernet poster
thru the screen, maybe configured so that whenever certain ones press
send they get a jolt.


I thought that was me.


No?



I'm good at the big ideas, I'll leave it up to the engineers who post
here to work out the details.


Well, if anyone can, anthony can.


Bertie

Tina

Don't they already have one???

Think it is called a cattle prod or some such.

Big John

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On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:50:34 -0000, Tina
wrote:

The invention needed is a taser that can be aimed at a usernet poster
thru the screen, maybe configured so that whenever certain ones press
send they get a jolt.


I'm good at the big ideas, I'll leave it up to the engineers who post
here to work out the details.

.Tina

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:50:34 -0000, Tina wrote
in .com:

The invention needed is a taser that can be aimed at a usernet poster
thru the screen, maybe configured so that whenever certain ones press
send they get a jolt.

I can understand your frustration, and proposed Skinnerian solution,
but would you truly want to introduce censorship into this uniquely
egalitarian forum?

Personally, I'd prefer that those who find it beyond their ability to
restrain themselves from reacting had your negative reward device
installed. :-) That would improve the newsgroup's signal-to-noise
ratio far more than stifling the trolls.

On Oct 17, 10:20 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:50:34 -0000, Tina wrote
in .com:
You know, Medtronics found their implanted defibulators sometimes
caused unintended shocks. This may be an ideal application. . . . .



The invention needed is a taser that can be aimed at a usernet poster
thru the screen, maybe configured so that whenever certain ones press
send they get a jolt.

I can understand your frustration, and proposed Skinnerian solution,
but would you truly want to introduce censorship into this uniquely
egalitarian forum?

Personally, I'd prefer that those who find it beyond their ability to
restrain themselves from reacting had your negative reward device
installed. :-) That would improve the newsgroup's signal-to-noise
ratio far more than stifling the trolls.

On Oct 17, 8:50 am, Tina wrote:
The invention needed is a taser that can be aimed at a usernet poster
thru the screen, maybe configured so that whenever certain ones press
send they get a jolt.

I'm good at the big ideas, I'll leave it up to the engineers who post
here to work out the details.

.Tina

Seen in a .sig file long ago:

"What the world needs now is killfiles that actually kill."

Normally I loath airprt security. But i hate asshole pax even more..
too good for him, I say!

They should do the same to people who talk in movie theatres.

Agree.

I hate the way these Taser stories are written, with all of their
unabashed phony horror and shock. What everyone forgets is that
before the Taser the police might have simply shot the guy, or (at
best) would have started swinging billy clubs -- risking injury to
themselves as well as to the perp.

The guy went berserk in a public place, and was a clear and present
danger to others. The Mounties did what they thought was best for the
public. The guy obviously had some pre-existing condition that caused
his ticker to quit. It happens.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On Oct 17, 7:27 am, Jay Honeck wrote:
Normally I loath airprt security. But i hate asshole pax even more..
too good for him, I say!

They should do the same to people who talk in movie theatres.

Agree.

I hate the way these Taser stories are written, with all of their
unabashed phony horror and shock. What everyone forgets is that
before the Taser the police might have simply shot the guy, or (at
best) would have started swinging billy clubs -- risking injury to
themselves as well as to the perp.

The guy went berserk in a public place, and was a clear and present
danger to others. The Mounties did what they thought was best for the
public. The guy obviously had some pre-existing condition that caused
his ticker to quit. It happens.

A couple of summers ago I flew he Mooney up to Vancouver. While at the
park with the kids I saw a Canadian officer (mountie, not sure)
walking around with a rather large gun. I thought this was interesting
because I didn't know they carried guns. I got a little closer and
realized what it was. No joke, it was a water gun!! Apparently he was
using it to spray an annoying squirrel. I thought the sight was so
funny I went back to the rental car to get my camera. Seeing me
approach with the camera, the mountie seemed annoyed and walked off.
How great would that have been to have caught a Canadian law
enforcement officer walking around with a giant side arm that carried
water!

-Robert